Genuine question to Democrats: why so loyal to Biden?

[Randy Marsh]

Everyone can see he's far too old for the job. Why not nominate someone else? Is it just a lack of challengers?

I understand voting for your party in the GE. But I just can't understand why you would re-nominate the guy. The country AND the Democratic Party would be much better off if you just chose someone else

FYI: Biden supporters' go-to excuse is always Trump. This post isn't about Trump. I'm not asking why you would support Biden over Trump, I'm asking you why you would re-nominate him

[Pheurton Skeurto]

You could make this exact same thread asking the same exact question about Trump. Why anything?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Due to fact that we don't like Trump and his massive tax cuts to the rich

[DrScholl]

Because he actually has gotten more done than the past 4 or 5 Presidents did in their first term? It's not hard to understand. Plus neither party has failed to renominate an incumbent in recent history.

The better question is why would Republicans nominated Trump when he clearly has extensive cognitive problems, has been indicted multiple 91 times and has caused a realignment in previous Republican strong holds. The country would be better off if Trump suspended his campaign, but clearly that's not happening. Biden is not the problem, Trump is. What even is the point of this thread?

[Randy Marsh]

You could make this exact same thread asking the same exact question about Trump. Why anything?

Due to fact that we don't like Trump and his massive tax cuts to the rich

Because he actually has gotten more done than the past 4 or 5 Presidents did in their first term? It's not hard to understand. Plus neither party has failed to renominate an incumbent in recent history.

The better question is why would Republicans nominated Trump when he clearly has extensive cognitive problems, has been indicted multiple 91 times and has caused a realignment in previous Republican strong holds. The country would be better off if Trump suspended his campaign, but clearly that's not happening. Biden is not the problem, Trump is. What even is the point of this thread?

HW had a far more credible primary challenge and he didn't have half the issues Biden has

Regardless as I predicted everyone just keeps talking about Trump because they cannot defend Biden

[GAinDC]

Because he's the sitting Democratic president and a good person who has done a lot of good things.

[DrScholl]

You could make this exact same thread asking the same exact question about Trump. Why anything?

Due to fact that we don't like Trump and his massive tax cuts to the rich

Because he actually has gotten more done than the past 4 or 5 Presidents did in their first term? It's not hard to understand. Plus neither party has failed to renominate an incumbent in recent history.

The better question is why would Republicans nominated Trump when he clearly has extensive cognitive problems, has been indicted multiple 91 times and has caused a realignment in previous Republican strong holds. The country would be better off if Trump suspended his campaign, but clearly that's not happening. Biden is not the problem, Trump is. What even is the point of this thread?

HW had a far more credible primary challenge and he didn't have half the issues Biden has

Regardless as I predicted everyone just keeps talking about Trump because they cannot defend Biden

Biden didn't face a primary challenge because he has been an effective President. I clearly defended Biden by saying he is an effective President. It's far more worth asking why Republicans nominated Trump with his liabilities, but they did so because he is racist and that is the sort of policy they want.

[Obama24]

Because he's the sitting Democratic president and a good person who has done a lot of good things.

Could even say he's the new father of our country.

[President Johnson]

So Democrats are not supposed to be loyal to their president while Republicans are a cult of personality? Got it.

[wbrocks67]

Joe Biden objectively has gotten more done than Barack Obama. Why would I not support him?

[7,052,770]

He has a ton of legislative accomplishments and a great economic record. He deserves a second term.

The vast majority of Democrats agree with me. Republicans are deluding themselves by saying that Democrats hate Biden and only begrudgingly like him because of Trump.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

We’re not that loyal to him. It’s campaign 101 that an incumbent being primaried hurts the party in most cases. Biden is a competent president and there isn’t anyone stepping up to replace him.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

I mean, voters don’t really have a choice but to be loyal or open the door back up to Trump.

But party powerbrokers absolutely failed by refusing to talk him out of seeking re-election. Biden is being popularly ridiculed in ways we haven’t seen since Bush 43, yet Democrats don’t seem to see it or care.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

I mean, voters don’t really have a choice but to be loyal or open the door back up to Trump.

But party powerbrokers absolutely failed by refusing to talk him out of seeking re-election. Biden is being popularly ridiculed in ways we haven’t seen since Bush 43, yet Democrats don’t seem to see it or care.

Bush still won re-election

[Progressive Pessimist]

1. He accomplished hell of a lot for having a bare minimum trifecta in his firs two years, and Republican House in his second two.
2. The Democratic Party is stronger under him than it was under Clinton and Obama while they were President.
3. He got us out of the pandemic in a fashion that we are still seeing the benefits of today, macroeconomically.
4. He is an honest, decent, genuine person who is consistently underrated.
5. He restored our reputation in the world.

[Eraserhead]

You could make this exact same thread asking the same exact question about Trump. Why anything?

Yes and the short answer is America and its people, for lack of better words, suck eggs.

[ProudModerate2]

You could make this exact same thread asking the same exact question about Trump. Why anything?

The question would be (and should be) asked, the other way about trump, with a thousand times more strength and meaning to it.

The OP has the nerve to say/ask "why you would re-nominate him (Biden)?"
Seriously?

It's either someone being a Trump-Cult member, with massive horse-blinders ..
Or someone trying to troll, and "own the liberals" on this site.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Because he actually has gotten more done than the past 4 or 5 Presidents did in their first term? It's not hard to understand. Plus neither party has failed to renominate an incumbent in recent history.

The better question is why would Republicans nominated Trump when he clearly has extensive cognitive problems, has been indicted multiple 91 times and has caused a realignment in previous Republican strong holds. The country would be better off if Trump suspended his campaign, but clearly that's not happening. Biden is not the problem, Trump is. What even is the point of this thread?

He did not get more done than George W Bush in amount done. In W's first term he got his tax cuts passed, his education bill passed, medicare part d passed, the farm bill passed, partial birth abortion ban passed, and his entire foreign policy/national security agenda passed as well.

Congress pretty much was more deferential to W than they have been to any president in decades and W 100% got more things done than Biden has in his first term.

[Yoda]

Everyone can see he's far too old for the job. Why not nominate someone else? Is it just a lack of challengers?

I understand voting for your party in the GE. But I just can't understand why you would re-nominate the guy. The country AND the Democratic Party would be much better off if you just chose someone else

FYI: Biden supporters' go-to excuse is always Trump. This post isn't about Trump. I'm not asking why you would support Biden over Trump, I'm asking you why you would re-nominate him

The lack of self-reflection on the part of Republicans when their nominee is constantly falling asleep in court and showing strong signs of dementia is mind boggling.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Because he actually has gotten more done than the past 4 or 5 Presidents did in their first term? It's not hard to understand. Plus neither party has failed to renominate an incumbent in recent history.

The better question is why would Republicans nominated Trump when he clearly has extensive cognitive problems, has been indicted multiple 91 times and has caused a realignment in previous Republican strong holds. The country would be better off if Trump suspended his campaign, but clearly that's not happening. Biden is not the problem, Trump is. What even is the point of this thread?

He did not get more done than George W Bush in amount done. In W's first term he got his tax cuts passed, his education bill passed, medicare part d passed, the farm bill passed, partial birth abortion ban passed, and his entire foreign policy/national security agenda passed as well.

Congress pretty much was more deferential to W than they have been to any president in decades and W 100% got more things done than Biden has in his first term.

He gave you a stimulus check of 1200 and passed out Covid vaccines than Trump did

[Donald Trump’s Toupée]

1. He accomplished hell of a lot for having a bare minimum trifecta in his firs two years, and Republican House in his second two.
2. The Democratic Party is stronger under him than it was under Clinton and Obama while they were President.
3. He got us out of the pandemic in a fashion that we are still seeing the benefits of today, macroeconomically.
4. He is an honest, decent, genuine person who is consistently underrated.
5. He restored our reputation in the world.

You must be kidding. All of those are laughable. Restored reputation in world? What are you smoking.

[Inmate Trump]

Donald Trump is a confirmed traitor to the United States.

-January 6 was an insurrection instigated by Trump.
-He perpetrated an attempted coup with his actions post-election (not just 1/6).
-He has promised there will be another coup attempt should be lose this year.
-He has openly stated the Constitution should be terminated.
-He disrespects and discredits the sacrifice of our military men and women.

He is a traitor, and so is anyone who would vote for him.
He betrayed his oath of office, the presidency, and the entire country--you're just too stupid to see that he betrayed you too.

In that light, I will support literally anyone against him so long as they too are not traitors.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I don't think Biden is "too old to do the job". From my perspective, he's been a low-profile but effective President, given what he has to work with. And like it or not, there is a hefty electoral advantage to incumbency.

I am troubled that he is old enough that there is a significant risk he suddenly won't be able to do the job due to a health crisis, but there was not a good alternative nominee on offer. And, because the Democratic party is not a one-man cult, a collapse in Biden's health would not be an unthinkable disaster, but the sad loss of an effective leader.

Had there been a convincing "Biden but younger" alternative on offer, I likely would have supported them. But there was not. (The myriad failing of America's current political system and its underpinnings are a different topic.)

[DrScholl]

Because he actually has gotten more done than the past 4 or 5 Presidents did in their first term? It's not hard to understand. Plus neither party has failed to renominate an incumbent in recent history.

The better question is why would Republicans nominated Trump when he clearly has extensive cognitive problems, has been indicted multiple 91 times and has caused a realignment in previous Republican strong holds. The country would be better off if Trump suspended his campaign, but clearly that's not happening. Biden is not the problem, Trump is. What even is the point of this thread?

He did not get more done than George W Bush in amount done. In W's first term he got his tax cuts passed, his education bill passed, medicare part d passed, the farm bill passed, partial birth abortion ban passed, and his entire foreign policy/national security agenda passed as well.

Congress pretty much was more deferential to W than they have been to any president in decades and W 100% got more things done than Biden has in his first term.

Most of that was a failure. No Child Left Behind was a mess and let's not even get started on the foreign policy being horrendous. Those tax cuts are still a major problem in terms of revenue. There is a difference between getting good things done and getting bad things done.

1. He accomplished hell of a lot for having a bare minimum trifecta in his firs two years, and Republican House in his second two.
2. The Democratic Party is stronger under him than it was under Clinton and Obama while they were President.
3. He got us out of the pandemic in a fashion that we are still seeing the benefits of today, macroeconomically.
4. He is an honest, decent, genuine person who is consistently underrated.
5. He restored our reputation in the world.

You must be kidding. All of those are laughable. Restored reputation in world? What are you smoking.

I wouldn't accuse anyone of smoking anything when you support a person who can't even stay awake.

[Mr. Smith]

He's the incumbent and has what they'd consider an agreeable record, and he triggers the cons!