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« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2018, 11:02:07 PM »


No, the opposition parties all have two seats and I'm the Minority Leader. Tongue

That is generally how a non-partisan, merit based election works. Tongue
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« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2018, 03:49:31 AM »


No, the opposition parties all have two seats and I'm the Minority Leader. Tongue

That is generally how a non-partisan, merit based election works. Tongue

democracy at its finest

But seriously, is there an official way to determine the "official opposition" if all three opposition parties are tied?

Well, in the US, we don't have a single opposition leader. If you'll notice, in official Senate business, Schumer is always referred to as the "Democratic Leader" to Turtle's "Majority Leader", never "Minority Leader".

Otherwise I'd imagine it'd be based on who got more votes for Speaker/PPT/etc. Then maybe seniority? Idk.

Anyway you might actually be the 'majority leader' if Alliance were to form an official bloc with the left parties.

The answer is no, unless the body be ideologically divided like it was in early 2014. It was split 5-5, and TNF was the defacto leader of the opposition.

However, there is no real structural way to create proposition or opposition conference that has meaning beyond just doing it for the sake of doing it. The only real success I achieved with this across six congresses was with the Whips, because they have a definable role.

What good is a Majority/Minority Leader though? What do they do in real life? They control the calendar and what comes up. Here it is done by order of introduction, with equal access to the floor, and a limit on the number of bills one sponsor can have on the floor to preserve the floor from being monopolized.

So regardless of who officially has the control or who is official Speaker, anyone, from anyone party can get their bill on the floor. The only hindrance is whether or not the Speaker/PPT is sh**t or not. That is why many times such elections often ignore partisanship and ideology and merely elect the most active and fairest person, which is in the best interest of the minority since it removes the only road block to their floor access, incompetence.

As much as some want to try and push for there to be some kind of grand coalition opposed to the Federalist Party, the Congress isn't structured for that, and I owe my Speakership to a diverse grand coalition not just in this Congress, but in the 6th and 8th as well, so about half the time I have been speaker.

When I was PPT the last time, it lasted through a period that the Senate was 8-2 leftist and survived a Laborite majority twice, and would have a third time if I hadn't lost my internet access.

The shift to a partisan controlled chamber was long supported by the left, including TNF. It was actually part of the original Duke plan for the House to be partisan while the Senate was non-partisan, but once again there was no way to make it work. You cannot deny access to a certain group of members to the floor, otherwise they have no mutual benefit from participating at all and will basically just be permanently inactive, if they were to run at all. I was even willing to let them try it and but by then they had changed their minds (Windjammer is a very different person from TNF Tongue), but based on my experiences with the conferences, it would not have worked.
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« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2018, 05:25:20 PM »


No, the opposition parties all have two seats and I'm the Minority Leader. Tongue

That is generally how a non-partisan, merit based election works. Tongue

democracy at its finest

But seriously, is there an official way to determine the "official opposition" if all three opposition parties are tied?

Well, in the US, we don't have a single opposition leader. If you'll notice, in official Senate business, Schumer is always referred to as the "Democratic Leader" to Turtle's "Majority Leader", never "Minority Leader".

Otherwise I'd imagine it'd be based on who got more votes for Speaker/PPT/etc. Then maybe seniority? Idk.

Anyway you might actually be the 'majority leader' if Alliance were to form an official bloc with the left parties.

The answer is no, unless the body be ideologically divided like it was in early 2014. It was split 5-5, and TNF was the defacto leader of the opposition.

However, there is no real structural way to create proposition or opposition conference that has meaning beyond just doing it for the sake of doing it. The only real success I achieved with this across six congresses was with the Whips, because they have a definable role.

What good is a Majority/Minority Leader though? What do they do in real life? They control the calendar and what comes up. Here it is done by order of introduction, with equal access to the floor, and a limit on the number of bills one sponsor can have on the floor to preserve the floor from being monopolized.

So regardless of who officially has the control or who is official Speaker, anyone, from anyone party can get their bill on the floor. The only hindrance is whether or not the Speaker/PPT is sh**t or not. That is why many times such elections often ignore partisanship and ideology and merely elect the most active and fairest person, which is in the best interest of the minority since it removes the only road block to their floor access, incompetence.

As much as some want to try and push for there to be some kind of grand coalition opposed to the Federalist Party, the Congress isn't structured for that, and I owe my Speakership to a diverse grand coalition not just in this Congress, but in the 6th and 8th as well, so about half the time I have been speaker.

When I was PPT the last time, it lasted through a period that the Senate was 8-2 leftist and survived a Laborite majority twice, and would have a third time if I hadn't lost my internet access.

The shift to a partisan controlled chamber was long supported by the left, including TNF. It was actually part of the original Duke plan for the House to be partisan while the Senate was non-partisan, but once again there was no way to make it work. You cannot deny access to a certain group of members to the floor, otherwise they have no mutual benefit from participating at all and will basically just be permanently inactive, if they were to run at all. I was even willing to let them try it and but by then they had changed their minds (Windjammer is a very different person from TNF Tongue), but based on my experiences with the conferences, it would not have worked.

Not by me!


A partisan House or a partisan senate is just a terrible idea. There are often problems with activity, so basically reducing the ability of senators or representatives to have their laws being debated will just lead to even more inactivity.

And anyway, I suppose the Rules of the Senate have changed a bit since the time I was administrating it as VP and then PPT (Speaker was always such a dumb name), but I suppose there are still slots reserved for emergency etc etc.

Someone didn't read the whole post. Tongue

And yes changing the PPT of the Senate to Senate Speaker during the latter part of the pre-reset Atlasia, was rather hollow and superficial of a change that served no purpose.
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« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2018, 02:26:51 AM »

RED FEDERALISM IS RISING AGAIN MR. PERICLES
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« Reply #54 on: April 01, 2018, 02:36:09 AM »

ReaganClinton
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One day Keystone Phil shall sally forth once more in a time of great need, and to his call will rally all RL Republicans to reform the AFRP and he will lead the righteous forces to victory in the name of Rick Santorum, Alexander Haig and inactivity.
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« Reply #55 on: April 01, 2018, 02:05:47 PM »

RIPEEBS


She has sort through all this mess.
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« Reply #56 on: April 05, 2018, 12:45:38 AM »


Welcome to the game and the Party!!!
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« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2018, 02:26:39 AM »

In the past, under moderator supervision of course. The person has been allowed to create a new account, and then the accounts would be combined together. Not sure if that is the way they plan to do it or not and I would advise AZ to follow what the Mods recommend, lest a Simfan 2.0 situation happen.


But there are ways around an account lock out.
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« Reply #58 on: April 12, 2018, 07:14:33 PM »


Welcome to the game, the region and the party!
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« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2018, 11:31:19 PM »

What is the way to leaving atlasia?

I'm registered yet I never participate here so I am spammed with election stuff daily.



Please don't leave. You can always run for regional government, I'm not sure what's going on in your region but there's a House of Commons election next week in Fremont so if you move to Minnesota you can run in it. I found that to be a good start to participating in the game, rather than getting involved in national politics(which I understand why you might not like it). I'm sure there's a way for you to participate in a small way, even just as a voter(you can submit legislation) don't feel you have to jump in the deep end.

Yes, there are a number of different ways to participate and all are welcome to do so and explore new avenues as well.
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« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2018, 05:19:20 PM »

Would this be a bad time to point out that I still don't think the merger was legal to begin with. Tongue
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« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2018, 01:17:31 AM »

https://youtu.be/LxptQ_75mQw?t=114
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« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2018, 06:21:05 PM »

Finally taking a vacation and going back home

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrEljMfXYo
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« Reply #63 on: July 26, 2018, 02:22:14 AM »

It is a great paradox in the whole "competitive elections versus opportunity of holding office debate".

The more you cut offices to increase competition, the more you risk people giving up in frustration. I think Sestak openly acknowledged frustration at his inability to win as a motivation. I think Bagel feels that frustration as well, and I am not saying it is the number 1 or even the number 2 consideration, but it might just be the straw that broke the camels back in terms of leaving.

If you are a newer poster or if you are somewhat controversial even or perhaps not even. Perhaps you just happen to be running with a strong crop of candidates and end up the odd man out. For that person in that scenario, it is not disappointment of "man I wish we could have got that last seat", it is a sense of complete and utter rejection.

Perhaps and maybe we should consider it from this perspective to ensure we are at least covering all angles, there is a benefit to having larger regional assemblies in terms of giving an openness for newer players and less established players to get started.
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« Reply #64 on: July 28, 2018, 05:30:24 PM »


Oh, the introduction thread only said my account had to be 7 days old.

That is one of many reasons why the introduction thread is being redesigned.
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« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2018, 01:57:39 AM »


Nah. It was a real struggle between Pax and the Feds, but part of me can never forgive the Federalists for murdering the Imperial Bloc when the Whigs absorbed it.

The Whigs were practically dead by that point though.
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« Reply #66 on: August 09, 2018, 12:54:32 AM »


ROWAN RISES AGAIN!!!

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« Reply #67 on: August 18, 2018, 11:34:51 PM »



Welcome to the Party!
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« Reply #68 on: August 24, 2018, 03:25:50 AM »

I would like to register. My username is anna0kear, I would like to be an independent (for now) in the state of Lincoln.


How can I become Elections Secretary (federal or state-level) and run the Census?

What work would that job involve?

Is there a list of current officeholders?

How can I contact them?

What about a list of party officials?

Can I change parties/state/partisan affiliation?

Are Federalist and Labor the same thing?

If so, why are they separate?

What's the PAX party?


Thanks for answering my questions. If there's a more appropriate forum to ask, please do so/direct me there.

How about, I'll start out as a member of the Alliance.

    And is my original vote counted, my altered vote counted, or my vote considered completely invalid, if I decide to switch after more than 20 minutes have passed?

    Is the Lt.-Gov. of Lincoln elected, appointed, or otherwise?

    Which Senate seat from Lincoln is up this week?

    What about the Registrar-General's job?

We REALLY need to redo that introduction page.

I seem to recall a lengthy discussion on this hosted by the administration on Discord... Tongue

Anyway I very much would like to see that happen, but the biggest difficulty isn't will to redo it but how. A lot of different ideas about how much detail and how to arrange it.
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