College Students Are Ridiculously Infuriating Safe-Space/Mega-thread

[Alcon]

Let's simplify this.

A campus is a home. That's what it is, ultimately for students who live there. Every home up and down the country has 'house rules'. Sometimes you're asked to not to swear, sometimes you're asked not to bring up certain issues. Do people bang on private homes and demand that 1st Amendment rights be protected? No. Say anything homophobic in my home and your out the front door in my home. Does that make us 'special snowflakes?' No.

Sometimes students just don't want sh-t brought through their front door, because they are concerned about people they live with. That's all it is. They will leave college and that will be the end of that. But while they are in college, they might be a little sensitive about the people they are sharing their communal space with. That's all it is. And it's not new.

Interesting.  You think that a university should effectively function as a private residence, where the household "decision maker" is the majority will of the students in that school (or something similar), and that this discretionary power overrides any obligation (if any) to provide a platform for academic or intellectual freedom?  If not, what are the limitations of the analogy you're making?

I think this conversation also may lead toward dealing with the point Al raised about the specifics of at whose event/invitation/etc. the political speech in question is.

[RightBehind]

I graduated college in May 2014. When did this culture begin?

I don't remember the term safe space or trigger warning being used when I went to school and my school was overwhelmingly liberal.

We didn't have fraternities or sororities either. So I don't know.

Maybe I was just in a bubble.

[dead0man]

High School Removes Swastikas From Production Of ‘The Producers

idiots

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These are the people running the schools.  Someone that can't imagine a context where a Swastika would be appropriate in a high school.  Freaking morons!  <shakes head>

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Honestly they really should consider not putting on The Producers if that's their attitude. Or The Sound of Music.

[KingSweden]

I graduated college in May 2014. When did this culture begin?

I don't remember the term safe space or trigger warning being used when I went to school and my school was overwhelmingly liberal.

We didn't have fraternities or sororities either. So I don't know.

Maybe I was just in a bubble.

Graduated in '12 from UW in Seattle - not exactly a right wing stronghold. I don't remember any of this either, you're not alone. I do sometimes get the sense that this is especially prevalent on private, exclusive campuses i.e. Yale, Dartmouth, Wesleyan etc. I'm sure it happens at big public universities too (see: Missouri) but it seems to be particularly prevalent at private liberal arts colleges.

[dead0man]

Honestly they really should consider not putting on The Producers if that's their attitude. Or The Sound of Music.

Or learning about WWII.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Honestly they really should consider not putting on The Producers if that's their attitude. Or The Sound of Music.

Or learning about WWII.

Unless its only about how privileged Americans bombed poor people and minorities.

[dead0man]

ASUCD Executive Office issues apology following accusations of cultural appropriation and fat shaming

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[youngohioan216]

link - WaPo
Somebody threw a tequila party, tiny sombreros were worn.  Clearly that's a huge violation of somebody's civil rights so heads need to roll.  Administrators at colleges are little babies, afraid of perpetual victims.  My favorite part.

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I know it's Alex Jones but he makes great points here about these types of liberal douchebags who think the Soviet Union/Communism is cool. PATHETIC SCUM!!!!!! YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR JAWS BROKEN!!!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooNxJnf_UAI

[dead0man]

“To be honest, I was shocked. February 19 was Remembrance Day for Japanese internment during WWII, and some of my Japanese friends were heavily traumatized by seeing their culture mocked in such a clearly racist fashion,” Jones said in a Facebook comment on the Block Party’s event page. “Not to mention, as a Heavy-American, I don’t appreciate the blatant Fat-Shaming involved with caricaturing one of the few sports traditionally enjoyed by Heavy individuals. I honestly feel reparations payments are in order to affected individuals, and that those responsible for the grossly negligent oversight should immediately resign from their ASUCD posts.”

So yeah, that last guy was a troll.  Nobody actually said "as a Heavy-American".  I know a lot of you had to fight back giggles when you read that and then felt super guilty about it.  Do perpetual victims have a "hail mary" type thing they say when they sin against multiculturalism?  Well you didn't need to say it after giggling.

[dead0man]

African-American trans woman and LGBTQ activist speaker cancels lecture at Brown because it's more important to hate Jews than it is to support a black trans woman.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

African-American trans woman and LGBTQ activist speaker cancels lecture at Brown because it's more important to hate Jews than it is to support a black trans woman.

At this point, I don't think it can be said that campus BDS is anything but a full-fledged hate group.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I've been to events at Hillel houses. Hillel houses are nice places. I have a more positive opinion of Hillel houses than I have of Janet Mock.

[Simfan34]

I've been to events at Hillel houses. Hillel houses are nice places. I have a more positive opinion of Hillel houses than I have of Janet Mock.

The unsettling thing about this is that they were targeting a Jewish campus group rather than an explicitly Israeli one. The idea that Jewish groups deserve condemnation by mere association certainly undermines any claims the protectors may make about their lack of antisemitism.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I've been to events at Hillel houses. Hillel houses are nice places. I have a more positive opinion of Hillel houses than I have of Janet Mock.

The unsettling thing about this is that they were targeting a Jewish campus group rather than an explicitly Israeli one. The idea that Jewish groups deserve condemnation by mere association certainly undermines any claims the protectors may make about their lack of antisemitism.

This College Leftist and This Nazi Skinhead Bonded over Their Shared Antisemitism. What Happens Next Will Warm Your Heart.

[dead0man]

I've been to events at Hillel houses. Hillel houses are nice places. I have a more positive opinion of Hillel houses than I have of Janet Mock.

The unsettling thing about this is that they were targeting a Jewish campus group rather than an explicitly Israeli one. The idea that Jewish groups deserve condemnation by mere association certainly undermines any claims the protectors may make about their lack of antisemitism.

the left knows many of it's own are racists, they just hate to talk about it.  Many of them will deny it out loud (and a couple of the more ignorant ones will actually mean it).

[DavidB.]

I've been to events at Hillel houses. Hillel houses are nice places. I have a more positive opinion of Hillel houses than I have of Janet Mock.

The unsettling thing about this is that they were targeting a Jewish campus group rather than an explicitly Israeli one. The idea that Jewish groups deserve condemnation by mere association certainly undermines any claims the protectors may make about their lack of antisemitism.

I am glad they are being intellectually honest.

[dead0man]

Chalk drawings reading "Trump 2016" are intimidating

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[Mr. Reactionary]

"After meeting with our students, I cannot dismiss their expression of feelings and concern as motivated only by political preference or over-sensitivity. Instead, the students with whom I spoke heard a message, not about political process or candidate choice, but instead about values regarding diversity and respect that clash with Emory’s own.

...

On the heels of work begun by students last fall and advanced last month through the Racial Justice Retreat and subsequent working groups, Emory is taking a number of significant steps: ...


• A formal process to institutionalize identification, review, and addressing of social justice opportunities and issues"

These infants are not prepared for the real world if contested elections hurt their feelings.

[KingSweden]

I've been to events at Hillel houses. Hillel houses are nice places. I have a more positive opinion of Hillel houses than I have of Janet Mock.

The unsettling thing about this is that they were targeting a Jewish campus group rather than an explicitly Israeli one. The idea that Jewish groups deserve condemnation by mere association certainly undermines any claims the protectors may make about their lack of antisemitism.

This College Leftist and This Nazi Skinhead Bonded over Their Shared Antisemitism. What Happens Next Will Warm Your Heart.

It's sound much more click bait if that last sentence read "You'll never believe what happened next!"

[Bigby]

Chalk drawings reading "Trump 2016" are intimidating

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It saddens me that this garbage happens even in my home state.

[DavidB.]

Let's simplify this.

A campus is a home. That's what it is, ultimately for students who live there. Every home up and down the country has 'house rules'. Sometimes you're asked to not to swear, sometimes you're asked not to bring up certain issues. Do people bang on private homes and demand that 1st Amendment rights be protected? No. Say anything homophobic in my home and your out the front door in my home. Does that make us 'special snowflakes?' No.

Sometimes students just don't want sh-t brought through their front door, because they are concerned about people they live with. That's all it is. They will leave college and that will be the end of that. But while they are in college, they might be a little sensitive about the people they are sharing their communal space with. That's all it is. And it's not new.

So if this is true, why are the ones protesting the most against all sorts of stuff also the ones who bring the most disgusting anti-Semitic garbage to campus (i.e. to Jewish students' "home")? That has nothing to do with people being concerned about the people they live with, quite the contrary.

[DC Al Fine]

NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘they don’t face oppression’

[Ban my account ffs!]

NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘they don’t face oppression’

What complete and utter bullsh**t.  I guess it'll just be the LBT movement, then.  Good thing the NUS is an irrelevant joke.

It seems most people are blaming this new development on the trans community.  I don't know if it's true... but if it is, it's time to separate the movements and let the transsexuals go on their own.

[Potus]

Interesting video.