2024 Third Party and Independent Candidate General discussion

[MichaelM24]

As a Hoosier, Indiana's close-to-impossible for most people (Ralph Nader has never been on our ballot), but if anyone could do it, Kennedy could. That said, I'm not sure it's worth it, as this state would likely give more votes to the Libertarian than to RKF.

[MichaelM24]

I apologize for the double-post.

Just saw that Randall Terry was nominated by the Constitution Party. Not surprised they went with him over the other choices.

Blankenship's 2020 run was pretty pitiful, but Darrell Castle did quite well in 2016. I don't care for Terry, but I wish him the best in getting his campaign's message out.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

I don't always agree with his tactics, but there's no doubt that Randall Terry is genuinely and passionately committed to defending unborn life.  I may vote for him if he's on the ballot in Tennessee.

[wbrocks67]

VP still MIA

https://twitter.com/MerylKornfield/status/1784315639953289443

[Open Source Intelligence]

The Vermont Green Mountain Peace & Justice Party nominated Cornel West for President. This is the new name of the old Liberty Union Party in the state.

[Redban]

Kennedy says that he will make a "major announcement" on May 1st in NYC at 1PM ET. Rumors suggest he'll announce that he reached the signature threshold in 3 more states, including Texas

He claims to have over 20k signatures in NY. The requirement is 45k, with a full month to go. So he should have a good surplus for when signatures get disqualified. He claims he'll hit 90k

[Fubart Solman]

The Vermont Green Mountain Peace & Justice Party nominated Cornel West for President. This is the new name of the old Liberty Union Party in the state.

Good to know! Are the VT Progressives planning on naming anyone? I know they don’t always choose to run a candidate for POTUS.

[Open Source Intelligence]

The Vermont Green Mountain Peace & Justice Party nominated Cornel West for President. This is the new name of the old Liberty Union Party in the state.

Good to know! Are the VT Progressives planning on naming anyone? I know they don’t always choose to run a candidate for POTUS.

I'm not aware of them ever nominating anyone outside the norm for President. Maybe they've done a co-endorsement of the Democratic Party nominee. Their level of toleration from the Democratic Party would likely disappear in such an event. I don't think Progressives really run independent of Democrats in the state much outside of Burlington, where they just won the mayor's race.

Bernie Sanders is a kinda sorta party member and when he was a write-in in 2016 and took above 5%, I imagine the Progressives backed him to a higher degree than state Democrats did, not that it mattered with Vermont being an incredibly safe Democratic state.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

Kennedy says that he will make a "major announcement" on May 1st in NYC at 1PM ET. Rumors suggest he'll announce that he reached the signature threshold in 3 more states, including Texas

He claims to have over 20k signatures in NY. The requirement is 45k, with a full month to go. So he should have a good surplus for when signatures get disqualified. He claims he'll hit 90k

Fully expect it to be ballot access in TX + two others and close to finished in NY. Went to his Buffalo, NY rally this past weekend which had a solid crowd of 300+.

[ReallySuper]

for those who havent seen it yet, jill stein, her campaign manager and her deputy campaign manager were arrested at the washington university gaza solidarity encampment in st. louis two nights ago. jill was charged with assaulting a police officer, so she was separated from the other arrested demonstrators and locked in a cell by herself for 5+ hours that night. the assault in question involved her getting violently repressed by a police officer twice her size using a bicycle to crush her into the crowd

[Minnesota Mike]

https://twitter.com/paulmitche11/status/1785092833906741426

[Open Source Intelligence]

https://twitter.com/paulmitche11/status/1785092833906741426

Reaching. Trump didn't disavow them. The Republican Party didn't want to deal with fusion.

[Minnesota Mike]

Alabama 1963. RFK. George Wallace. Look it up.

The idea Jr is using Wallace's party for ballot access is repulsive.

[Unbeatable Titan Susan Collins]

Alabama 1963. RFK. George Wallace. Look it up.

The idea Jr is using Wallace's party for ballot access is repulsive.

The idea of Joe Biden using James Buchanan's, Woodrow Wilson's, Nathan Bedford Forrest's party is repulsive.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Alabama 1963. RFK. George Wallace. Look it up.

The idea Jr is using Wallace's party for ballot access is repulsive.

The idea of Joe Biden using James Buchanan's, Woodrow Wilson's, Nathan Bedford Forrest's party is repulsive.

Ooh thats a burn like you almost never see anymore nowadays on the internet.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

https://twitter.com/paulmitche11/status/1785092833906741426

AIP nominated a hispanic for President and black man for VP in 2020. Cry me a river.

[Open Source Intelligence]

Alabama 1963. RFK. George Wallace. Look it up.

The idea Jr is using Wallace's party for ballot access is repulsive.

I know exactly who George Wallace is. I also know in 1972 he ran in the Democratic presidential primaries and won 7 states that year.

[ClassicElectionEnthusiast]

From what I've been aware of, the American Independent Party as it currently stands seems to be almost a "rent-a-party" that's been known more in recent years for creating problems with independent voters in California being erroneously labeled as AIP members (and thus unable to vote in presidential primaries, for instance).

And with the Alan Keyes nomination in 2008; that was something of a fluke (between 1992 and 2008 the AIP was associated with the Constitution Party; while Keyes - after leaving the GOP - tried to run for the Constitution Party nomination only to lose its nomination to its 2004 VP nominee; Chuck Baldwin), so my guess is that was when the AIP split into two factions.

[Open Source Intelligence]

From what I've been aware of, the American Independent Party as it currently stands seems to be almost a "rent-a-party" that's been known more in recent years for creating problems with independent voters in California being erroneously labeled as AIP members (and thus unable to vote in presidential primaries, for instance).

And with the Alan Keyes nomination in 2008; that was something of a fluke (between 1992 and 2008 the AIP was associated with the Constitution Party; while Keyes - after leaving the GOP - tried to run for the Constitution Party nomination only to lose its nomination to its 2004 VP nominee; Chuck Baldwin), so my guess is that was when the AIP split into two factions.

The longtime chair of the California AIP died this past cycle, so I think they're in the mood to change. The national Constitution Party severed their relationship with the don't have ballot access California Constitution Party in what was a clear signal to attempt to reconnect links with the California AIP and gain ballot access for the national CP in the state. Even for the AIP and the California Peace & Freedom Party, if you gain that ballot access as a minor third-party candidate, it single-handedly makes you about 6th place finisher in the country just due to California's size.

As far as the name, the California legislature passed a bill the past couple years saying no party can have "Independent" in its name. Newsom vetoed it at the time saying the law would not stand up to state constitutional muster.

[The Mikado]

Gonna have to dig up the post I made last year saying if RFK wanted ballot access in CA the best way would be to get it through the AIP. CA is a hard state to get on through signatures. RFK probably could've done it but it'd be very expensive and time consuming.

Given he'd probably have made it elsewhere, much like with Kennedy getting the Natural Law endorsement in MI, maybe one of the biggest effects is it prevents anyone else from getting this free ballot line. Rather than Kennedy and some other person on the AIP line, it's just Kennedy.

Anyway, this is undoubtedly good news for Kennedy as much as some other people are going to enjoy dunking on RFK for having his father's archnemesis' party support him. THAT angle is one I could see the other members of the Kennedy family bashing him over.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

Libertarian Party: Trump accepts invite to National Convention

https://twitter.com/LPNational/status/1785665924064035192?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle...

[wbrocks67]

https://twitter.com/danielmarans/status/1785721751340474381

https://twitter.com/danielmarans/status/1785723835553120756

[Independents for Nihilism]

Is this Bobby's so-called "special announcement", that Biden should drop out? Or that he beats either Trump or Biden head-to-head?

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

I love how he loses Pennsylvania in both head to head matchups against Biden and Trump.

[TheTide]

Neither of the Kennedy maps suggest much #populist appeal.