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« on: August 05, 2017, 12:09:57 PM »

After they refused to follow this demand to get back at work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ZTCPJ39LA


I dont get why this is so controversial :

1: They striked from a job where they have to keep people safe. So their strike threatened people's safety

2. This strike was illegal due to Taft-Hartley  
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2017, 12:17:36 PM »

You seem to be confusing legal and moral
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2017, 12:23:42 PM »

This is one area where computers have not yet caught up with humans.
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2017, 12:31:54 PM »


So its moral to strike on a job where you have to keep people safe.
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2017, 12:34:35 PM »


So its moral to strike on a job where you have to keep people safe.

Yes? So people don't get to fly? A complete deprivation of rights! How tragic!
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2017, 05:16:20 PM »


So its moral to strike on a job where you have to keep people safe.

Yes? So people don't get to fly? A complete deprivation of rights! How tragic!

Yes it is a deprivation of people's rights.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2017, 05:18:06 PM »


So its moral to strike on a job where you have to keep people safe.

Yes? So people don't get to fly? A complete deprivation of rights! How tragic!

Yes it is a deprivation of people's rights.

Flying is a privilege, as is driving. Neither are rights.
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2017, 06:12:01 PM »


So its moral to strike on a job where you have to keep people safe.

Yes? So people don't get to fly? A complete deprivation of rights! How tragic!

Yes it is a deprivation of people's rights.

Flying is a privilege, as is driving. Neither are rights.

In that case, you can't quite argue for requiring licenses/registration with guns.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2017, 06:13:54 PM »


So its moral to strike on a job where you have to keep people safe.

Yes? So people don't get to fly? A complete deprivation of rights! How tragic!

Yes it is a deprivation of people's rights.

Flying is a privilege, as is driving. Neither are rights.

So is working as an Air Traffic Controller .


The fact is they knew that striking would get them fired (according to Taft -Hartley) , the President warned them after they striked and they still refused to call it off meaning they justifingly got fired .
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2017, 06:17:40 PM »

Still a massive FF move.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2017, 08:24:24 PM »

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The fact is she knew that voting would get her arrested (according to the 15th Amendment), the election inspector warned her after they voted and she still refused to call it off meaning she justifiably got fined .
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2017, 08:51:20 PM »

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« on: June 20, 1909 at 6:13:54 pm »

The fact is she knew that voting would get her arrested (according to the 15th Amendment), the election inspector warned her after they voted and she still refused to call it off meaning she justifiably got fined .


LMAO at comparing the right to vote to the right for workers to strike from jobs where they protect people.


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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2017, 08:53:26 PM »

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The fact is she knew that voting would get her arrested (according to the 15th Amendment), the election inspector warned her after they voted and she still refused to call it off meaning she justifiably got fined .


Please make more of these.
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2017, 09:14:15 PM »

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« on: June 20, 1909 at 6:13:54 pm »

The fact is she knew that voting would get her arrested (according to the 15th Amendment), the election inspector warned her after they voted and she still refused to call it off meaning she justifiably got fined .

LMAO at comparing the right to vote to the right for workers to strike from jobs where they protect people.
I mean, I get that you're a conservative and therefore not inclined to be sympathetic to the strikers' cause, but the fact that you find this comparison amusing is indicative as to why you struggle to comprehend why this chapter of our history might be controversial.
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2017, 12:20:46 AM »

Unplug this computer before it damages my brain
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2017, 12:37:38 AM »
« Edited: August 06, 2017, 12:40:33 AM by Goldwater »

Even assuming you agree with the decision, it seems like a rather odd thing to celebrate the anniversary of...
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2017, 03:40:39 AM »
« Edited: August 06, 2017, 03:46:10 AM by Old School Republican »

Even assuming you agree with the decision, it seems like a rather odd thing to celebrate the anniversary of...

Im not celebrating it , its just that I want to dispel the myth that this decision was some how a super evil move . I saw on the news that it was 36 years since Reagan made this decision , and since I see people on this forum calling this decision evil I tried to explain why it wasnt.
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2017, 09:13:01 AM »

Even assuming you agree with the decision, it seems like a rather odd thing to celebrate the anniversary of...

Im not celebrating it , its just that I want to dispel the myth that this decision was some how a super evil move . I saw on the news that it was 36 years since Reagan made this decision , and since I see people on this forum calling this decision evil I tried to explain why it wasnt.

Wow, it even speaks robot.
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2017, 01:20:54 AM »


So its moral to strike on a job where you have to keep people safe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Police_Strike

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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2017, 01:21:19 AM »


If by "FF" you mean "dick", certainly.
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2017, 01:51:50 AM »

They were IN CLEAR violation of federal lw.

We are a nation based on LAWS. What the controllers were doing was unlawful.

It's not rocket science. The nation's basic air infrastructure was at risk of not operating, costing us lots of money.

He did the right thing, and the controllers were asshats 
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2017, 03:00:51 AM »

Why the 36th anniversary, dude? It's an odd thing to commemorate as is.
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2017, 04:10:31 AM »


Private Workers should have the right to strike , public workers whose job is too keep people safe should not. If they arent getting paid good enough , they should have their wages increased but they shouldnt threaten the safety of the people they need to protect.


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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2017, 12:03:08 PM »

FF........then and now.
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