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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2014, 09:50:53 PM »

I don't want the shut down or less restrictions on campaign donations. If it does shut down at least it will be for a respectable reason.

I do. Every "Democrat" in the House who voted for this (who didn't get beaten in the House) deserves to be primaried.
Hahahahahhahha look at you thinking progressives will actually get off their asses and do something instead of writing angry words on the Internet and taking off to drink themselves half to death.
What do you do? I worked on a million dollar congressional race. Sawx is involved with his Democratic Party up in NH. What gives you the right to criticize anyone when I highly doubt you are in the arena at all.
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2014, 09:54:18 PM »

Just the musings of anger, my friend.
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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2014, 09:55:55 PM »

You must forgive me, I misread your post as attacking them and not Progressives as a whole. It seemed so odd and out of the blue.
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« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2014, 09:57:12 PM »

I don't want the shut down or less restrictions on campaign donations. If it does shut down at least it will be for a respectable reason.

I do. Every "Democrat" in the House who voted for this (who didn't get beaten in the House) deserves to be primaried.
Hahahahahhahha look at you thinking progressives will actually get off their asses and do something instead of writing angry words on the Internet and taking off to drink themselves half to death.

Get back to me when you've done something. Until then, you're part of the problem, kiddo.
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« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2014, 09:59:13 PM »

Reid said 2-day funding till the cromnibus passes.
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« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2014, 10:10:56 PM »

The bill just passed the House 219-206.
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« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2014, 10:12:56 PM »


Huh
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« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2014, 10:15:03 PM »

A truly horrible bill, and all of those 57 DINOs who were re-elected need to be primaried.  And Obama needs to veto.
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« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2014, 10:23:43 PM »

I don't want the shut down or less restrictions on campaign donations. If it does shut down at least it will be for a respectable reason.

I do. Every "Democrat" in the House who voted for this (who didn't get beaten in the House) deserves to be primaried.

This bill is certainly awful enough that a government shutdown is definitely preferable. This is a total taxpayer give away to the banks, allows people to give $3 million to a political party, vetoes DC's legalization of pot, and other ridiculous crap.

Obama had better veto this, and our next Presidential nominee needs to be significantly more liberal to the point where they don't consider signing garbage like this.

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« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2014, 10:27:02 PM »

I don't want the shut down or less restrictions on campaign donations. If it does shut down at least it will be for a respectable reason.

I do. Every "Democrat" in the House who voted for this (who didn't get beaten in the House) deserves to be primaried.

Obama had better veto this,

I hope you realize that there's no way that's happening.
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« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2014, 10:27:50 PM »

I don't want the shut down or less restrictions on campaign donations. If it does shut down at least it will be for a respectable reason.

I do. Every "Democrat" in the House who voted for this (who didn't get beaten in the House) deserves to be primaried.

This bill is certainly awful enough that a government shutdown is definitely preferable. This is a total taxpayer give away to the banks, allows people to give $3 million to a political party, vetoes DC's legalization of pot, and other ridiculous crap.

Obama had better veto this, and our next Presidential nominee needs to be significantly more liberal to the point where they don't consider signing garbage like this.



It's ~$300,000, not $3 million (but yes, still too much). The campaign financing concession and the rollback on derivatives regulation are both abhorrent and the bill should not pass until they are removed. Not a fan of the Marijuana text either, but Congress is going to roll it back in DC regardless; the political support isn't there yet.
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« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2014, 10:31:44 PM »

I was confused earlier; the House also passed a two-day CR to give the Senate an opportunity to debate the bill.
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« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2014, 10:34:11 PM »

This bill is certainly awful enough that a government shutdown is definitely preferable. This is a total taxpayer give away to the banks, allows people to give $3 million to a political party, vetoes DC's legalization of pot, and other ridiculous crap.

Obama had better veto this, and our next Presidential nominee needs to be significantly more liberal to the point where they don't consider signing garbage like this.
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« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2014, 10:37:17 PM »

I don't want the shut down or less restrictions on campaign donations. If it does shut down at least it will be for a respectable reason.

I do. Every "Democrat" in the House who voted for this (who didn't get beaten in the House) deserves to be primaried.

Obama had better veto this,

I hope you realize that there's no way that's happening.

Obama is really a pathetic President.
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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2014, 10:38:13 PM »

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30443960


The Good


-increasing the amount an individual person can contribute to a national political party from $32,400 to $324,000

-blocking certain Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) regulations

-cuts in the budgets of the EPA and the US tax agency

-increases in the budget for Wall Street regulation agencies, including the Securities and Exchange Commission.


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-blocks the District of Columbia from using its own funds to set up regulatory systems for marijuana legalisation

-measures that would significantly weaken new regulations about risky financial instruments called swaps
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« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2014, 10:41:54 PM »

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30443960


The Good


-increasing the amount an individual person can contribute to a national political party from $32,400 to $324,000

-blocking certain Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) regulations

-cuts in the budgets of the EPA and the US tax agency

-increases in the budget for Wall Street regulation agencies, including the Securities and Exchange Commission.


The Bad.


-blocks the District of Columbia from using its own funds to set up regulatory systems for marijuana legalisation

-measures that would significantly weaken new regulations about risky financial instruments called swaps

That's all bad, except for 4th one. And as critical I've been of Obama, even I would have thought that he wouldn't be a total joke and sign something like this. Joke President!
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« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2014, 10:42:08 PM »

The Republicans won the election, so let them drive the agenda. Excellent job, Obama, for putting the national interest ahead of petty feuds over minor partisan grievances and compromising like a statesman to avoid a government shutdown.
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« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2014, 10:43:41 PM »

The Republicans won the election, so let them drive the agenda. Excellent job, Obama, for putting the national interest ahead of petty feuds over minor partisan grievances and compromising like a statesman to avoid a government shutdown.

The Republicans won the election because Democrats didn't stand for things enough. If Obama signs this, it won't even matter who wins the elections any more, unless we can get President Sanders.

In other news of Democrats sucking hard, the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 that an employer can choose to not pay you for half an hour of mandatory security screening a day.
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« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2014, 10:45:57 PM »

The Republicans won the election, so let them drive the agenda. Excellent job, Obama, for putting the national interest ahead of petty feuds over minor partisan grievances and compromising like a statesman to avoid a government shutdown.

The Republicans won the election because Democrats didn't stand for things enough. If Obama signs this, it won't even matter who wins the elections any more, unless we can get President Sanders.

In other news of Democrats sucking hard, the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 that an employer can choose to not pay you for half an hour of mandatory security screening a day.

No, the Republicans won because the stopped nominating nut bag tea party candidates who wanted to shut down the government over every minor slight. Which is exactly what you want Dems to start doing so they can lose even harder.
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« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2014, 10:55:17 PM »

The Republicans won the election, so let them drive the agenda. Excellent job, Obama, for putting the national interest ahead of petty feuds over minor partisan grievances and compromising like a statesman to avoid a government shutdown.

The Republicans won the election because Democrats didn't stand for things enough. If Obama signs this, it won't even matter who wins the elections any more, unless we can get President Sanders.

In other news of Democrats sucking hard, the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 that an employer can choose to not pay you for half an hour of mandatory security screening a day.

No, the Republicans won because the stopped nominating nut bag tea party candidates who wanted to shut down the government over every minor slight. Which is exactly what you want Dems to start doing so they can lose even harder.

LOL, the Republicans took a hard-line a year ago, and then did well in the last elections. Are you going to claim to me that Ernst and Tillis are some sort of moderates?
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« Reply #45 on: December 11, 2014, 10:57:48 PM »

LOL, I tuned into Fox News for a bit, and Sean Hannity and his panel were bashing Boehner for "not standing up to Obama on immigration," or something like that.  Lol.
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« Reply #46 on: December 11, 2014, 11:01:20 PM »

The Republicans won the election, so let them drive the agenda. Excellent job, Obama, for putting the national interest ahead of petty feuds over minor partisan grievances and compromising like a statesman to avoid a government shutdown.

The Republicans won the election because Democrats didn't stand for things enough. If Obama signs this, it won't even matter who wins the elections any more, unless we can get President Sanders.

In other news of Democrats sucking hard, the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 that an employer can choose to not pay you for half an hour of mandatory security screening a day.

No, the Republicans won because the stopped nominating nut bag tea party candidates who wanted to shut down the government over every minor slight. Which is exactly what you want Dems to start doing so they can lose even harder.

LOL, the Republicans took a hard-line a year ago, and then did well in the last elections. Are you going to claim to me that Ernst and Tillis are some sort of moderates?

The Republicans have always taken a hard line. Tillis barely won in a state that seems to relish one-term Senators. Ernst was up against perhaps one of the worst candidates in history.
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« Reply #47 on: December 11, 2014, 11:03:20 PM »

Great Cory Booker speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh2RW9PX6zc
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« Reply #48 on: December 11, 2014, 11:03:52 PM »

So did Democrats get anything out of this "deal", or did they completely give away the store? Because from skimming it, it seems as though Republicans got 99% of what they wanted. Hell, they even included Boehner's immigration gambit that only funded the DHS until February so they can begin more extortion in two months. This is just going to embolden them to do the same exact thing again...and again...and again. Somewhere the line has to be drawn.
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« Reply #49 on: December 11, 2014, 11:06:20 PM »

So did Democrats get anything out of this "deal", or did they completely give away the store? Because from skimming it, it seems as though Republicans got 99% of what they wanted. Hell, they even included Boehner's immigration gambit that only funded the DHS until February so they can begin more extortion in two months. This is just going to embolden them to do the same exact thing again...and again...and again. Somewhere the line has to be drawn.

Yes, Democrats will draw the line in not giving the Republicans 200% of what the Republicans want.


Ironically Obama could take a clue on being tougher on Wall Street from the guy who said he was too mean to Wall Street. Fine, my opinion of Booker has gone up slightly.
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