My journey to athiesm.

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tl;dr

his post simply denied Christ and exchanged Christianity for a lie, just like the scripture predicted:

2Pet 2:1  "They will introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them"

Rom 1:25 "God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.  They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised.  Amen.   26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done...32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them"

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For those who are theists the burden of proof must be on them. Particularly for Christians.

As it has already been explained to you in the past:  Romans ch 1 is directed at the church and is regarding mutually consenting same-sex sex among those who have been made aware of the word of God.  It has nothing to do with pagans who have never heard the gospel.

The proof for you is in your own words, which have fulfilled scripture.  In fact, you even took the trouble to expound upon the creature’s right to remain independent from it’s Creator.

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I'm glad you're glad afleitch isn't Christian anymore, and I look forward to your eradication of the liberal Christian plague upon our society.  In the future, we should consider pre-screening, to keep him and his type out.

I never said that.  Do you have anything truthful to say or is your whole point based off a smear?

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How many converts do you think he has secured so far on this forum?  I take it efficacy is not a factor in the algorithm when it comes to preaching "the word," is it?

How many converts did Noah secure?  How many converts did Lot secure?  To give a testimony is only the responiblity of a Christian, it is God who does the securing.

this thread as sad as it is doesn't come as a surprise, for it was always obvious Andrew had never met Christ.  Hopefully, he will understand one day that his faith was simply a bunch of religion and was not a relationship with God.

1John 2:19-20 "They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.  20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth."

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Though I must make one comment about Jmfcst trotting out the Bible verses:  Yes, we know what your faith is.  Your attempts to wag your finger at us does nothing but isolate yourself and push others away.  It is ridiculous to try to scare people into your faith and then simply tell them it was expected when they reject your scare tactics.  That's just laziness in the most heretical way.

if anyone has ever paid attention to my posts, they know I teach one can't choose to accept Christ, rather that it is a calling...so I don't believe one can be scared into a relationship with Christ.

Your whole point is based on false assumptions of what I believe

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Again prove to me that Noah existed, that Lot existed. Prove to me that there is a god, only one god, that there are no other

Considering you do know something about scripture, this is a pretty ignorant strawman argument since the bible never offers “proof” to the masses, but rather the only thing it offers is the testimony of others.  Such proof would immediately invalidate the gift of faith, which would leave only works and would therefore close the pathway to salvation. 

Proof only comes to whom God has granted faith, like Paul’s conversion experience on the road to Damascus.  Once he met Christ, Paul never had to cross that bridge again – he didn’t have to constantly reevaluate whether or not he believed.  His relationship with Christ was more real than life itself and he would have considered it insane to reconsider his belief in God.  And I can witness to how Paul felt because I feel the exact same way because I too have met Jesus Christ.  And in over 17 years of being of Christian, I have never known anyone who has met Christ and then went on to later deny Christ.  I have seen some fall from grace by falling back into sin, but I’ve never seen anyone denounce Christ. 

So, the only proof I can offer you is the word of God.  The fact that you are openly turning your back on the bible and promoting the creature’s right to remain independent from and unyielding to the Creator is the exact fulfillment of “they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshipped created things instead of the Creator”.  You simply want the creature to have the right to retain its image instead of conforming to the image of the Creator.  So the proof to you that should prompt you to change course is that the bible has precisely predicted and laid bare your entire argument.  But, of course, this thread didn’t tell me anything that I didn’t discern from you years ago – only someone completely blind would have ever considered that you had a walk with Jesus Christ.  You’ve done nothing religiously on this board but twist scripture to justify your lifestyle, there was never a point in time where you shared any commonality with the heroes presented in scripture.  You never accepted the supremacy of Christ – that he is the only path to salvation.  You never accepted the historical accuracy of the bible as the apostles did.  You never had a testimony.  You never spoke about God being active in your life.  You never fit into the fabric and landscape of scripture because only someone in Christ can do so.  You simply grew up in a Christian school and accepted only the things that made you comfortable....I don’t say all this to be argumentative, for your rejection of Christ has already proven it. 

Your “faith” became more and more of a charade which you finally outgrew, which is a good thing because you are finally being honest about your beliefs.  I still hope someday you will shed the crowd you’re hanging around (because I have discerned from the beginning that the guy posting with you has a lot of inward hostility towards God and the bible) and find a private place to sincerely search for God, because Christ still died for you.

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So Jmfsct the challenge therefore for you is to explain me without recourse to the good book why I should have faith and your faith in particular. I want you to elaborate for me on this very topic or else I remain skeptical.

your whole basis is incorrect.  Faith is a gift from God, it is NOT a choice one makes.  I can't think of a scripture that instructs people to "choose faith" because the two words simply do not go together.

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So Jmfsct the challenge therefore for you is to explain me without recourse to the good book why I should have faith and your faith in particular. I want you to elaborate for me on this very topic or else I remain skeptical.

your whole basis is incorrect.  Faith is a gift from God, it is NOT a choice one makes.  I can't think of a scripture that instructs people to "choose faith" because the two words simply do not go together.

Oh okay then. Then explain why God has chosen some people to have faith and not others. Surely God would prefer some select group of his creation over others (and if so then this God is pretty illogical and one I find rather uninteresting and tyranical).

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rom%209&version=NIV

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When you deny one God, you inevitably find another.

good point, but it is really only a paraphrased form of "they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshipped the creature rather than the Creator."