Philly SHOCKED that new large soda tax is hurting consumers

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

I find it funny that the collectivists are accusing the individualists of being triggered when it is the former group that is offended by the very idea that people should be allowed to make their own bad decisions.

Which side of the debate compared the other sides position to eugenics and nazism?

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Are you claiming that sugary drinks aren't unhealthy? Because you don't have much of a point otherwise.

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The states and regions that flipped to trump weren't the ones with this kind of "nanny statism". There weren't a significant number of defections to trump over this. And of course, since when is a Piguvian tax smug condescension? Its not that a "poor mass of people that can't think for themselves" needs to be directed away from soda, its that making soda more expensive leads to people being more healthy. Since being healthy is a good thing, it would make sense to use a tax to make soda more expensive(not even banning it, just taxing).

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The states and regions that flipped to trump weren't the ones with this kind of "nanny statism". There weren't a significant number of defections to trump over this.

It wasn't about nanny-statism so much, but he has a point so much as they were being told how to act (or stuff was implied that their way of life was irrelevant and incorrect and needed to change) - see some of the Elliott County interviews, for instance. Hardly 'the cause' of the win, but one of a handful of reasons for defections.

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If you want to spend less money nationally on health care costs, whether that's through health insurance premiums/cost sharing, or Medicare/Medicaid taxes, getting people to make healthier decisions is a good way to do that. Just be aware that it's a long term solution whose results won't be apparent right away.

[Goldwater]

EDIT: ninja'd by RINO Tom of all people. Strange bedfellows, I suppose.

Yeah, I have to admit it kind of amusing to see one of Michael Bloomberg's biggest fans (i.e. one of the three people on this site that actually likes him) arguing against this.

LOL, I am NOT a fan of Bloomberg.  I am even less of a fan of people who hate him because he supports policies that "help the affluent" (and, in his mind, by extension everyone else), but I am not a nanny stater in any sense of the word.

Oh, I see. Maybe I mixed you up with somebody else? Maybe I was thinking of Computer/Old School Republican?

[RINO Tom]

EDIT: ninja'd by RINO Tom of all people. Strange bedfellows, I suppose.

Yeah, I have to admit it kind of amusing to see one of Michael Bloomberg's biggest fans (i.e. one of the three people on this site that actually likes him) arguing against this.

LOL, I am NOT a fan of Bloomberg.  I am even less of a fan of people who hate him because he supports policies that "help the affluent" (and, in his mind, by extension everyone else), but I am not a nanny stater in any sense of the word.

Oh, I see. Maybe I mixed you up with somebody else? Maybe I was thinking of Computer/Old School Republican?

Hey, low blow.

[MasterJedi]

You don't need soda to live, I really couldn't care less if people can't afford it with a soda tax. So yes, get angry over this and not that power companies for example have monopolies and get approval for almost every increase they give or that the inner cities have almost no grocery store options but plentiful fast food. Good job guys!

[dax00]

[insert obligatory spiel about how the notion of morality is absurd]
i've said it before and say it yet again. it is not the job of government to decide how persons ought to live their lives (so long as they aren't hurting others) or compel them to act in a certain way by means of taxation. such is tantamount to imposing religious beliefs upon us. and maintaining secularism is important. this is why i'm against "sin" taxes. #pro-choice

[DC Al Fine]

[Obligatory spiel about how 'morality is absurd' is a moral argument]

Seriously dude, you can't escape this stuff. Even 'no harm' or 'consent' based politics are in fact moral arguments. It's just a question where you draw the line.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

[insert obligatory spiel about how the notion of morality is absurd]
i've said it before and say it yet again. it is not the job of government to decide how persons ought to live their lives (so long as they aren't hurting others) or compel them to act in a certain way by means of taxation. such is tantamount to imposing religious beliefs upon us. and maintaining secularism is important. this is why i'm against "sin" taxes. #pro-choice

Do you have a socialist avatar because it looks cool or because you think it makes you cool. Because that doesn't sound like a socialist.

[Santander]

[insert obligatory spiel about how the notion of morality is absurd]
i've said it before and say it yet again. it is not the job of government to decide how persons ought to live their lives (so long as they aren't hurting others) or compel them to act in a certain way by means of taxation. such is tantamount to imposing religious beliefs upon us. and maintaining secularism is important. this is why i'm against "sin" taxes. #pro-choice

Do you have a socialist avatar because it looks cool or because you think it makes you cool. Because that doesn't sound like a socialist.

Says the communist with a libertarian avatar, lol.

[Goldwater]

[Obligatory spiel about how 'morality is absurd' is a moral argument]

Seriously dude, you can't escape this stuff. Even 'no harm' or 'consent' based politics are in fact moral arguments. It's just a question where you draw the line.

Yeah, you can support a libertarian view on social issues while recognizing it as a form of morality, it's not that hard. I mean, how is saying "it's morally wrong to force a person to do x" not a moral statement?

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

[insert obligatory spiel about how the notion of morality is absurd]
i've said it before and say it yet again. it is not the job of government to decide how persons ought to live their lives (so long as they aren't hurting others) or compel them to act in a certain way by means of taxation. such is tantamount to imposing religious beliefs upon us. and maintaining secularism is important. this is why i'm against "sin" taxes. #pro-choice

Do you have a socialist avatar because it looks cool or because you think it makes you cool. Because that doesn't sound like a socialist.

Says the communist with a libertarian avatar, lol.

Do you even know what communist means?

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[insert obligatory spiel about how the notion of morality is absurd]
i've said it before and say it yet again. it is not the job of government to decide how persons ought to live their lives (so long as they aren't hurting others) or compel them to act in a certain way by means of taxation. such is tantamount to imposing religious beliefs upon us. and maintaining secularism is important. this is why i'm against "sin" taxes. #pro-choice

Do you have a socialist avatar because it looks cool or because you think it makes you cool. Because that doesn't sound like a socialist.

I had no idea sugar taxes were an essential part of socialism.

[Tintrlvr]

[insert obligatory spiel about how the notion of morality is absurd]
i've said it before and say it yet again. it is not the job of government to decide how persons ought to live their lives (so long as they aren't hurting others) or compel them to act in a certain way by means of taxation. such is tantamount to imposing religious beliefs upon us. and maintaining secularism is important. this is why i'm against "sin" taxes. #pro-choice

Do you have a socialist avatar because it looks cool or because you think it makes you cool. Because that doesn't sound like a socialist.

I had no idea sugar taxes were an essential part of socialism.

The sugary drink tax: Lenin's greatest triumph!

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

[insert obligatory spiel about how the notion of morality is absurd]
i've said it before and say it yet again. it is not the job of government to decide how persons ought to live their lives (so long as they aren't hurting others) or compel them to act in a certain way by means of taxation. such is tantamount to imposing religious beliefs upon us. and maintaining secularism is important. this is why i'm against "sin" taxes. #pro-choice

Do you have a socialist avatar because it looks cool or because you think it makes you cool. Because that doesn't sound like a socialist.

I had no idea sugar taxes were an essential part of socialism.

They are, but the point was more his libertarian rant about government. The average socialist tends to not be against government intervention on principle.

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I mean, one shouldn't get hooked on labels, but you do know that libertarianism was considered a left wing/socialis philosophy until recently?