How would you vote ...

[danny]

I would support abolishing it in Austria, here in Israel it is still necessary though.

[danny]

I would support abolishing it in Austria, here in Israel it is still necessary though.

I fail to see how it could be necessary in one country and abolishable in another, and how one could have geographically varying values and convictions, but maybe that's just me...

The two countries have very different circumstances. If Austria didn't have an army, nothing much would change. If Israel didn't have an army, they would quickly be invaded and destroyed.

[danny]

Did I say something about having or not an army ? That is totally irrelevant to what we're discussing, and I think you're doing this on purpose.

To get back on our topic, death penalty is not more justified in certain circumstances in certain countries. Either you support it, believe in it, and I don't see why you would let it be abolished in some cases, or you don't support it, and nothing justifies it.

In a utopian world There would be no armies at all, much less a draft. However, beliefs must fit in with reality, and in Israel's case it is necessary to have a large percent of its population go to the army in order to survive.

I don't trust people with geometrically variable beliefs...

I think a bigger problem is with people who don't let facts get in the way of their ideology.

[danny]

Why on earth is the Red-Green Alliance in favor of the draft ? O_o

They think the army should only consists of draftees because the alternative, a professional army, is worse. Their spokesman on the subject said that "we have seen plenty of professional soldiers around the world with strange attitudes towards human rights and those they are fighting against". They believe that the draft secures a diverse composition of the military which enhances internal scrutiny and common sense.

I wonder if this can be seen as an endorsement of the Israeli army and its human rights attitudes since that is a draftee army;)