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« on: November 03, 2016, 07:33:09 PM »

He is recanting his endorsement of Hillary:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/casar-vargas/why-i-can-no-longer-suppo_1_b_12698874.html

I understand exactly how he feels and echoes a lot of my feelings on the Hillbots/red avatars here.
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2016, 07:35:18 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2016, 07:35:59 PM »

Anyone changing their mind this close to an election was never truly in support of any candidate.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2016, 07:44:21 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 07:45:26 PM »

oh noes!!

are you going to post next that HA Goodman is revoking his endorsement
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 07:46:05 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 07:46:11 PM »

I'm hopping mad at Hillary Clinton and her inner circle, but I want to see Trump and his entire movement of deplorables go down in flames.

I voted Bernie in the primaries.  Not because I "felt the Bern" (he was also a terrible candidate) but because I feared exactly this would happen with Clinton as the nominee.

However, Clinton is the turd we have, so I'm supporting her, both monetarily and by volunteering.

I do this because it must be done to save this country.  When this is all over, if Trump wins, I will bear no responsibility.  Not my fault.  As the country burns, as people of color are attacked, stopped and frisked, and deported, as we dismantle our alliances worldwide and diplomatically isolate ourselves, as millions lose health insurance, at least I did something to stop it.  If Clinton wins, we dodged a bullet, and we can get on with the business of the GOP trying to obstruct, discredit, and impeach a Democratic president.  Life goes on.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 07:47:58 PM »

I'm hopping mad at Hillary Clinton and her inner circle, but I want to see Trump and his entire movement of deplorables go down in flames.

I voted Bernie in the primaries.  Not because I "felt the Bern" (he was also a terrible candidate) but because I feared exactly this would happen with Clinton as the nominee.

However, Clinton is the turd we have, so I'm supporting her, both monetarily and by volunteering.

I do this because it must be done to save this country.  When this is all over, if Trump wins, I will bear no responsibility.  Not my fault.  As the country burns, as people of color are attacked, stopped and frisked, and deported, as we dismantle our alliances worldwide and diplomatically isolate ourselves, as millions lose health insurance, at least I did something to stop it.  If Clinton wins, we dodged a bullet, and we can get on with the business of the GOP trying to obstruct, discredit, and impeach a Democratic president.  Life goes on.

I believe Trump would f up the government. 

Hillary will f over the people.

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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2016, 07:51:08 PM »

oh noes!!

are you going to post next that HA Goodman is revoking his endorsement

Or obviously fake Democrat Doug Schoen:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/30/democrat_doug_schoen_is_reconsidering_his_support_for_hillary_clinton_because_of_fbi.html
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2016, 07:52:59 PM »

I'm hopping mad at Hillary Clinton and her inner circle, but I want to see Trump and his entire movement of deplorables go down in flames.

I voted Bernie in the primaries.  Not because I "felt the Bern" (he was also a terrible candidate) but because I feared exactly this would happen with Clinton as the nominee.

However, Clinton is the turd we have, so I'm supporting her, both monetarily and by volunteering.

I do this because it must be done to save this country.  When this is all over, if Trump wins, I will bear no responsibility.  Not my fault.  As the country burns, as people of color are attacked, stopped and frisked, and deported, as we dismantle our alliances worldwide and diplomatically isolate ourselves, as millions lose health insurance, at least I did something to stop it.  If Clinton wins, we dodged a bullet, and we can get on with the business of the GOP trying to obstruct, discredit, and impeach a Democratic president.  Life goes on.

I believe Trump would f up the government. 

Hillary will f over the people.



I have friends who would have had to choose between financial ruin and necessary, life-changing medical care if not for the Obamacare provisions.  Trump will dismantle these protections, just like the GOP has been trying to do for seven years.  One of many ways he will f over the people.

I'd be just fine.  But a lot of people are going to be completely screwed if he is elected.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2016, 07:53:42 PM »

Seems he's emulating the Marvel character.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2016, 07:59:45 PM »

I'm hopping mad at Hillary Clinton and her inner circle, but I want to see Trump and his entire movement of deplorables go down in flames.

I voted Bernie in the primaries.  Not because I "felt the Bern" (he was also a terrible candidate) but because I feared exactly this would happen with Clinton as the nominee.

However, Clinton is the turd we have, so I'm supporting her, both monetarily and by volunteering.

I do this because it must be done to save this country.  When this is all over, if Trump wins, I will bear no responsibility.  Not my fault.  As the country burns, as people of color are attacked, stopped and frisked, and deported, as we dismantle our alliances worldwide and diplomatically isolate ourselves, as millions lose health insurance, at least I did something to stop it.  If Clinton wins, we dodged a bullet, and we can get on with the business of the GOP trying to obstruct, discredit, and impeach a Democratic president.  Life goes on.

I believe Trump would f up the government. 

Hillary will f over the people.



I have friends who would have had to choose between financial ruin and necessary, life-changing medical care if not for the Obamacare provisions.  Trump will dismantle these protections, just like the GOP has been trying to do for seven years.  One of many ways he will f over the people.

I'd be just fine.  But a lot of people are going to be completely screwed if he is elected.

So thousands should take the burden for those couple of people to get help? Sorry, I don't buy into that.  Either everyone should benefit from paying in, or they shouldn't have to pay in at all. 
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2016, 08:05:07 PM »

Are you kidding ? !
This is like some no-body.
You might as well just create a thread saying your neighbor 3 houses down from you, is no longer supporting Clinton.
That would be an equivalent story ..... meaning it's a big nothing.
LOL.
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2016, 08:06:54 PM »

Are you kidding ? !
This is like some no-body.
You might as well just create a thread saying your neighbor 3 houses down from you, is no longer supporting Clinton.
That would be an equivalent story ..... meaning it's a big nothing.
LOL.


Seems to be a minor Hispanic celebrity to me. Wonder how many others are going to bail from the Hillbus?
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2016, 08:09:37 PM »

I'm hopping mad at Hillary Clinton and her inner circle, but I want to see Trump and his entire movement of deplorables go down in flames.

I voted Bernie in the primaries.  Not because I "felt the Bern" (he was also a terrible candidate) but because I feared exactly this would happen with Clinton as the nominee.

However, Clinton is the turd we have, so I'm supporting her, both monetarily and by volunteering.

I do this because it must be done to save this country.  When this is all over, if Trump wins, I will bear no responsibility.  Not my fault.  As the country burns, as people of color are attacked, stopped and frisked, and deported, as we dismantle our alliances worldwide and diplomatically isolate ourselves, as millions lose health insurance, at least I did something to stop it.  If Clinton wins, we dodged a bullet, and we can get on with the business of the GOP trying to obstruct, discredit, and impeach a Democratic president.  Life goes on.

I believe Trump would f up the government. 

Hillary will f over the people.



I have friends who would have had to choose between financial ruin and necessary, life-changing medical care if not for the Obamacare provisions.  Trump will dismantle these protections, just like the GOP has been trying to do for seven years.  One of many ways he will f over the people.

I'd be just fine.  But a lot of people are going to be completely screwed if he is elected.

So thousands should take the burden for those couple of people to get help? Sorry, I don't buy into that.  Either everyone should benefit from paying in, or they shouldn't have to pay in at all. 

Millions of people.  Millions of people who couldn't get/afford coverage, and were one bad illness from financial ruin.  I'll gladly have a little bit more taken out of my paycheck to live in a country where losing your job and getting cancer won't completely destroy the finances of your family.

And you do benefit, because it could happen to you.  Any of us could find ourselves in the position of medical bankruptcy, or with an illness we can never, ever get treated, given the right circumstances.

The biggest problem with Obamacare is that to make it work, you have to mandate people buy a privately provided service.  Trying to shoehorn this into our Byzantine private-insurance "system" is madness, but it's the only possible way to eliminate the most onerous consequences of private insurance, given the current political will.  What we should have is single f-ing payer, which would result in everyone paying less.  But oh noes, that's "socialism."

There are many things the government does for the public good that I don't benefit for, but still pay for.  I'm fine with that, because I care about the public good.
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2016, 08:19:47 PM »

Are you kidding ? !
This is like some no-body.
You might as well just create a thread saying your neighbor 3 houses down from you, is no longer supporting Clinton.
That would be an equivalent story ..... meaning it's a big nothing.
LOL.


Seems to be a minor Hispanic celebrity to me. Wonder how many others are going to bail from the Hillbus?

When at the very end of the article (you posted) has to explain who this person is ..... that is an excellent clue that this is a nobody. Your "minor Hispanic celebrity," is just as "minor" as trump's tiny hands.

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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2016, 08:21:26 PM »

Are you kidding ? !
This is like some no-body.
You might as well just create a thread saying your neighbor 3 houses down from you, is no longer supporting Clinton.
That would be an equivalent story ..... meaning it's a big nothing.
LOL.


Seems to be a minor Hispanic celebrity to me. Wonder how many others are going to bail from the Hillbus?

When at the very end of the article (you posted) has to explain who this person is ..... that is an excellent clue that this is a nobody. Your "minor Hispanic celebrity," is just as "minor" as trump's tiny hands.

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But he spoke in Spanish!  Spanish, people!!
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2016, 08:22:10 PM »

Never heard of him.
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