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« Reply #175 on: November 15, 2008, 04:40:53 PM »

2007 vs. 1995 (2002 isn't a real election).

Swing (Atlas definition of swing, not the Brit one o/c)



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I'm tempted to do some 1974 vs. 2007.
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« Reply #176 on: November 15, 2008, 04:47:40 PM »

Very interesting.
2 points: Sarkozy of course grabbed the FN vote. And Chirac has disappeared: it explains Correze and all the Massif Central (especially western Massif Central)'s swing.

I think a 1969 vs 1995 would be fine: Pompidou-Chirac vs something else...
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« Reply #177 on: November 15, 2008, 05:03:24 PM »

I think a 1969 vs 1995 would be fine: Pompidou-Chirac vs something else...

1969 is especially hard to do because of the absence of a leftie (like 2002).
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« Reply #178 on: November 15, 2008, 05:22:53 PM »

74-07 swing!

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« Reply #179 on: November 15, 2008, 05:39:26 PM »

OMG, Ille-et-Vilaine in the last (or first...) rank !

But not very different from 1995-2007.

For 1969-1995, just take Poher as the "left" candidate. I think we'd be surprised...
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« Reply #180 on: November 15, 2008, 06:09:19 PM »

Just compiled a 69-95 comparison. Not much use in doing a map as all departments
"swung" to the "left" except:

Alpes-Maritimes 27.68%
Bouches-du-Rhone 3.12%
Drome 4.34%
Gers 12.20%
Indre 0.74%
Loir-et-Cher 7.46%
Lot-et-Garonne 8.40%
Orne 5.46%
Rhone 1.88%
Haute-Savoie 9.04%
Paris 3.58%
Yvelines 3.12%
Var 12.88%
Vaucluse 22.98%
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« Reply #181 on: November 16, 2008, 04:18:28 PM »

The swing's level would be interesting, not just the colour.
But, anyway, I'm not here to decide what you have to do. It's your thread !
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« Reply #182 on: November 16, 2008, 07:21:26 PM »

Just compiled a 69-95 comparison. Not much use in doing a map as all departments "swung" to the "left" except:

Alpes-Maritimes 27.68%
Bouches-du-Rhone 3.12%
Drome 4.34%
Gers 12.20%
Indre 0.74%
Loir-et-Cher 7.46%
Lot-et-Garonne 8.40%
Orne 5.46%
Rhone 1.88%
Haute-Savoie 9.04%
Paris 3.58%
Yvelines 3.12%
Var 12.88%
Vaucluse 22.98%


     Wouldn't it be surprising if that weren't the case, considering the strength of Pompidou's performance? Or am I off-track here?
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« Reply #183 on: November 17, 2008, 05:24:58 PM »

Just compiled a 69-95 comparison. Not much use in doing a map as all departments "swung" to the "left" except:

Alpes-Maritimes 27.68%
Bouches-du-Rhone 3.12%
Drome 4.34%
Gers 12.20%
Indre 0.74%
Loir-et-Cher 7.46%
Lot-et-Garonne 8.40%
Orne 5.46%
Rhone 1.88%
Haute-Savoie 9.04%
Paris 3.58%
Yvelines 3.12%
Var 12.88%
Vaucluse 22.98%


     Wouldn't it be surprising if that weren't the case, considering the strength of Pompidou's performance? Or am I off-track here?

There was no leftist candidate in the second round.
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« Reply #184 on: November 17, 2008, 05:30:05 PM »

Xahar, please read some posts before: Poher would be the "other", as Jospin was in 1995.
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« Reply #185 on: November 17, 2008, 05:31:10 PM »

Useless fact from the 1969-1995 comparison. There was no swing in the Aude. Poher and Jospin got the exact same.
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« Reply #186 on: November 17, 2008, 06:05:46 PM »

Useless fact from the 1969-1995 comparison. There was no swing in the Aude. Poher and Jospin got the exact same.

That was, indeed, my point: Pompidou and Chirac had similar maps and Poher was, de facto, the left candidate. Many left voters in fact voted for him, even with "political disgust".

I precisely wanted to say that "la Chiraquie" et "la Pompidolie" were very similar.
Chirac has won only one "normal" election: 1995.
He lost a normal one in 1988, but it was still a seventies-eighties left-right map.

Pompidou ran only one presidential election.

Hence a comparison 1969-1995.

But forget it...
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« Reply #187 on: November 18, 2008, 04:34:15 PM »

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« Reply #188 on: November 18, 2008, 04:39:08 PM »

You can see where Pompidou's personal vote was strongest, can'st thou. Chirac too, but to a latter extent. The decline of the old Catholic-Anti Clerical divide is there as well.
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« Reply #189 on: November 18, 2008, 04:45:10 PM »

You can see where Pompidou's personal vote was strongest, can'st thou. Chirac too, but to a latter extent. The decline of the old Catholic-Anti Clerical divide is there as well.

Pompidou got over 80% in Cantal, btw.
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« Reply #190 on: November 18, 2008, 04:46:42 PM »

You can see where Pompidou's personal vote was strongest, can'st thou. Chirac too, but to a latter extent. The decline of the old Catholic-Anti Clerical divide is there as well.

Pompidou got over 80% in Cantal, btw.

I think that deserves a "lol".
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« Reply #191 on: November 18, 2008, 04:47:34 PM »

Btw, do you have figures for past Presidential elections by department [qm]. It'd be really nice if they were written up online somewhere.
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« Reply #192 on: November 18, 2008, 04:53:05 PM »

Btw, do you have figures for past Presidential elections by department [qm]. It'd be really nice if they were written up online somewhere.

The CDSP, though I'd be careful with the old constituency data in there.
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« Reply #193 on: November 18, 2008, 05:07:51 PM »

Btw, do you have figures for past Presidential elections by department [qm]. It'd be really nice if they were written up online somewhere.

The CDSP, though I'd be careful with the old constituency data in there.

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« Reply #194 on: November 18, 2008, 07:40:34 PM »

Xahar, please read some posts before: Poher would be the "other", as Jospin was in 1995.

But the Communists stayed home in 1969, which is why there is such a large discrepancy.
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« Reply #195 on: November 18, 2008, 07:49:24 PM »

Xahar, please read some posts before: Poher would be the "other", as Jospin was in 1995.

But the Communists stayed home in 1969, which is why there is such a large discrepancy.



Around 65-70ish stayed home.
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« Reply #196 on: November 19, 2008, 07:21:40 AM »

You can see where Pompidou's personal vote was strongest, can'st thou. Chirac too, but to a latter extent. The decline of the old Catholic-Anti Clerical divide is there as well.

Pompidou got over 80% in Cantal, btw.

I think that deserves a "lol".

It shows that even if it was Poher against him, Pompidou was THE candidate on whom voters decide, for or against him.

The electoral map of 1969 was a "gaulliste-pompidolienne", i.e. it was made of De Gaulle strongholds (former occupied France during WW2) and of "la Pompidolie" in the Massif Central (similar to "la Chiraquie").

Poher should have been stronger than that in the North West and the North East, in old MRP strongholds, but he wasn't indeed the centrist candidate, he was just the "other" candidate and gathered socialist, radical and even some communist voters.

As Chirac was the "other" candidate in 2002: the electoral map is a FN one.
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« Reply #197 on: November 23, 2008, 02:25:20 PM »

Requests? I'm quite bored now.

Thinking of doing a PS 1993 map.
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« Reply #198 on: November 23, 2008, 03:40:35 PM »


Definitely a good idea. At this point, 1993 seems to be a nice year for the French Socialists.
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« Reply #199 on: November 23, 2008, 04:52:23 PM »


Definitely a good idea. At this point, 1993 seems to be a nice year for the French Socialists.
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