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Question: Republicans, who do you want to win the Democratic nomination?
#1
I'm not a Republican but still want to vote
 
#2
Clinton
 
#3
Sanders
 
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Total Voters: 44

Author Topic: Republicans, who do you want to win the Democratic nomination?  (Read 2691 times)
RINO Tom
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« on: October 28, 2015, 03:37:05 PM »

I hate how socialism is thrown around like it's the scariest thing ever. The United States has medical coverage for the poor and elderly, food stamps, welfare... By many measures, it's already a state that holds many socialist values dear to the heart. I agree that Bernie goes too far, but it's socialism stretched to the extreme, not socialism "period."

I agree, but people only use words like that to describe the extent to which they're no longer comfortable with using that set of beliefs.  We all agree that we need taxes, that we need infrastructure spending and that we need a social safety net, just as Democrats all agree that we need defense spending, we need to have law and order and we need to maintain some basic cultural norms.  However, we all disagree to what extent those things are true.  Sanders wants to take a HUGE step in the direction toward *more socialism.*  I understand most here are not right-of-center on fiscal issues, but it shouldn't be unbelievable that those folks do not want Sanders' ideas implemented.

Anyway, I'm of the opinion that it won't really matter who wins the 2016 election.  The "centrists" (read: establishment candidates from either party) will more or less govern the same, and extremists from either party will likely result in the opposition making huge gains in Congress, rendering them less powerful.  I'll say that I want Hillary, as she is both a preferable alternative to a Republican (and, in my case, preferable over many Republicans) and a more flawed candidate (yes, I actually believe that).
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RINO Tom
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Posts: 17,051
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2015, 04:14:57 PM »

Is Sanders really that different from Clinton? I mean Sanders is hardly that more radical than the image he likes to project, as you might expect from somebody whose talking points include MY TAX RATES ARE JUST LIKE ESIENHOWER!!! and WOT ABOUT DENMARK!!

Sanders is fairly radical for the American electorate, and isn't that all that is relevant here whatsoever?
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