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« on: May 15, 2017, 10:58:17 AM »



BREAKING: Supreme Court will not review the North Carolina voter ID case, so the law is dead!
https://twitter.com/kira_lerner/status/864111318760116224


https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-15/u-s-supreme-court-refuses-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law

good riddance
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2017, 11:03:30 AM »

Sad!
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2017, 11:13:34 AM »

But Gorsuch .....END OF TIMES.......RIP SCOTUS. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2017, 11:16:37 AM »

Remember this day when Trump loses NC in 2020
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2017, 12:13:18 PM »

Remember this day when Trump loses NC in 2020

Won't happen. The only four states, at the most, I can see flipping D next election are FL/MI/WI/PA.
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2017, 12:17:06 PM »

Remember this day when Trump loses NC in 2020

Won't happen. The only four states, at the most, I can see flipping D next election are FL/MI/WI/PA.

It's way too early to be making any predictions about 2020.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2017, 12:49:00 PM »
« Edited: May 15, 2017, 12:50:32 PM by TD »

Here's an argument that Republicans should stop doing this. I think the Right has given up on appealing to minority America and now resorts to this to maximise the voter base of whites.

This is an epically stupid decision. Why? These minorities will be far less open to the Republican viewpoint, especially upscale minorities who would want to vote Republican. You send the political message you don't want them to vote -- how do you think they'll react? They'll continue growing and this also angers the 35% of white Democrats. It's not even a good long term strategy. It also affects the vote by 2-3% at most so its not good protection against Democratic waves.

This is short termism of the highest order. It's also lazy politics. It offers the GOP a crutch to rely on instead of engaging these voters and broadening beyond the Southern strategy.  If you won 40% of the minority vote while winning 65% of the white vote you're in good shape.

But if you're relying on solely white voters while ignoring a third of the electorate entirely that's dumb politics. Why allow Democrats to be 95% to their goal with liberal whites and minority votes at the starting gate?

This is why the Bush WH was so much more politically adroit (although they allowed this to happen too, so they weren't that great). It's time to stop letting Richard Nixon's decisions bind us (although I do love Nixon).
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 02:12:29 PM »

This is short termism of the highest order. It's also lazy politics. It offers the GOP a crutch to rely on instead of engaging these voters and broadening beyond the Southern strategy.  If you won 40% of the minority vote while winning 65% of the white vote you're in good shape.

This is the thing though - people as groups often fail to think long-term in a whole range of other areas. Right now, the GOP passes these laws and sees little to no political costs, and it becomes irresistible. If you look at just how many restrictive changes Republicans are willing to make across the country, you can also see a very significant degree of comfort in it. Some of these ideas they have will barely move the needle in their direction, yet they do it anyway knowing it will look bad. They are willing to rack up PR problems because they no longer give a crap. Why should, for instance, the NCGOP care what their actions look like? Favorable geography and gerrymandering have conspired to give them nearly unbreakable (for now) majorities. In fact, these politicians are actually kind of acting like companies with ironclad monopolies. Since there is no real competition, they increasingly push the boundaries of what is normally acceptable. Rarely do they get punished for it, and even when they do, it's unevenly distributed. Texas may get put back under preclearance, yet North Carolina, whose actions were even more despicable and just as, if not more transparent, got a pass from the 4th circuit (in terms of preclearance)

It also doesn't help that the GOP has developed a moral view of this as well - that if voters want to vote, they will do what it takes, and that voting shouldn't be easy so that the electorate has more informed people. There might be an argument in that, but it doesn't justify blatant partisan maneuvers like voter suppression (even if they think it does)

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As for the article, I feel it is worth mentioning that SCOTUS did not rule on the merits of the lawsuit. There was a lot of wrangling over who had the right to petition the court - the state AG/Gov or the legislature, and so the USSC decided to deny it for now. It can and probably will be revived sometime in the future.
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2017, 02:13:49 PM »

This is excellent news.

And, as Silent Cal pointed out so well, Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot trying to make this "block people from voting" their main strategy. Right now they're getting away with it here in Wisconsin, but I don't think that will be the case for long. Demographics are changing and millennials are aging into "hey, these people actually vote."
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2017, 02:49:33 PM »

Remember this day when Trump loses NC in 2020

Won't happen. The only four states, at the most, I can see flipping D next election are FL/MI/WI/PA.

None of these states were supposed to flip in the first place.

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