Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

[DownWithTheLeft]

I would like to thank all senators who voted against crippling the economy and small businesses with another minimum wage increase, however, I am holding out hope the president will veto this bill.

[Ebowed]

I would like to thank all senators who voted against crippling the economy and small businesses with another minimum wage increase

Can we please stop feeding this myth that minimum wages cripple the economy?

[DownWithTheLeft]

I would like to thank all senators who voted against crippling the economy and small businesses with another minimum wage increase

Can we please stop feeding this myth that minimum wages cripple the economy?

Tell that to people who are layed-off because the employer can't afford two employees at the rate they are receiving now and must fire someone.  The problem with the minimum wage is it effects all workers, even those high school and college students just looking for a few extra bucks.  The drive up in the minimum wage also increases the demand for illegal immigration which I would suspect is the hidden motive for this bill I presume.

[Verily]

I would like to thank all senators who voted against crippling the economy and small businesses with another minimum wage increase

Can we please stop feeding this myth that minimum wages cripple the economy?

Tell that to people who are layed-off because the employer can't afford two employees at the rate they are receiving now and must fire someone.  The problem with the minimum wage is it effects all workers, even those high school and college students just looking for a few extra bucks.  The drive up in the minimum wage also increases the demand for illegal immigration which I would suspect is the hidden motive for this bill I presume.

Given that it only increases the minimum wage in DC and the territories, neither of which is well-known for being a hub of illegal immigration, your claim must be assumed to be entirely spurious even were Ebowed inclined to be so malign.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Touche Speedy on bringing that up

I shouldn't have mentioned it, but hopefully the senate can have a fun conservation on that if things change

[Speed of Sound]

Touche Speedy on bringing that up

I shouldn't have mentioned it, but hopefully the senate can have a fun conservation on that if things change

Bringing what up? This bill has no connection to bills of past.

I hope so too. I have made some changes that I felt were necessary. See if you can pick them out.

[Verily]

By the way, Speedy, since the Governors were faster than feared in passing a districts map, we don't need the Second November-December Act; it could be withdrawn.

[MasterJedi]

I ask that the Atlasia-Peru bill be removed based on this past bill: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/South_American_Free_Trade_Act which already has given Atlasia and Peru free trade with each other.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I kindly request that Sen. Ebowed withdrew some of his less important bills so that other senators bill have a chance to come up

[Verily]

I ask that the Atlasia-Peru bill be removed based on this past bill: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/South_American_Free_Trade_Act which already has given Atlasia and Peru free trade with each other.

Thanks for pointing that out.

[MasterJedi]

I ask that the Atlasia-Peru bill be removed based on this past bill: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/South_American_Free_Trade_Act which already has given Atlasia and Peru free trade with each other.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Well you still need to withdraw it.

[Verily]

I ask that the Atlasia-Peru bill be removed based on this past bill: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/South_American_Free_Trade_Act which already has given Atlasia and Peru free trade with each other.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Well you still need to withdraw it.

I did already.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I cannot say I am particuarly in favor of Sen. Ebowed's comprehensive drug reform.  It is too non-specific and does not say how we will regulate the sale of these drugs.  I hope it gets fixed up to the point where it is something to work with.  I am glad, however, that I have brought ending the War on Drugs to the forefront again

[Ebowed]

I cannot say I am particuarly in favor of Sen. Ebowed's comprehensive drug reform.  It is too non-specific and does not say how we will regulate the sale of these drugs.  I hope it gets fixed up to the point where it is something to work with.  I am glad, however, that I have brought ending the War on Drugs to the forefront again

It's not finished, I just got bored of writing it.  I know there will have to be many more sections like regulation, taxation, and restrictions and so on.  I just posted that so I could finish it later.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I cannot say I am particuarly in favor of Sen. Ebowed's comprehensive drug reform.  It is too non-specific and does not say how we will regulate the sale of these drugs.  I hope it gets fixed up to the point where it is something to work with.  I am glad, however, that I have brought ending the War on Drugs to the forefront again

It's not finished, I just got bored of writing it.  I know there will have to be many more sections like regulation, taxation, and restrictions and so on.  I just posted that so I could finish it later.

Aren't you concerned though that the senate may cut out a long list of the drugs you mentioned?

[Ebowed]

I cannot say I am particuarly in favor of Sen. Ebowed's comprehensive drug reform.  It is too non-specific and does not say how we will regulate the sale of these drugs.  I hope it gets fixed up to the point where it is something to work with.  I am glad, however, that I have brought ending the War on Drugs to the forefront again

It's not finished, I just got bored of writing it.  I know there will have to be many more sections like regulation, taxation, and restrictions and so on.  I just posted that so I could finish it later.

Aren't you concerned though that the senate may cut out a long list of the drugs you mentioned?

I'd be curious to see what exactly the Senators know about each of the drugs mentioned.

BTW that list doesn't legalize everything which is currently illegal ('scheduled') in the US/Atlasian law.  But it covers the stuff that people shouldn't be in trouble for.

Even if they cut out some of the drugs in the list, I hope we can agree to end the practice of incarcerating someone whose sole violation is drug use.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I cannot say I am particuarly in favor of Sen. Ebowed's comprehensive drug reform.  It is too non-specific and does not say how we will regulate the sale of these drugs.  I hope it gets fixed up to the point where it is something to work with.  I am glad, however, that I have brought ending the War on Drugs to the forefront again

It's not finished, I just got bored of writing it.  I know there will have to be many more sections like regulation, taxation, and restrictions and so on.  I just posted that so I could finish it later.

Aren't you concerned though that the senate may cut out a long list of the drugs you mentioned?

I'd be curious to see what exactly the Senators know about each of the drugs mentioned.

BTW that list doesn't legalize everything which is currently illegal ('scheduled') in the US/Atlasian law.  But it covers the stuff that people shouldn't be in trouble for.

Even if they cut out some of the drugs in the list, I hope we can agree to end the practice of incarcerating someone whose sole violation is drug use.

How bout a bill that did nothing but end incarcerations for people found with drugs? 

[Ebowed]

How bout a bill that did nothing but end incarcerations for people found with drugs? 

Because we can seriously cut dangerous crime, and fatalities from drug overdoses, if we legalize hard drugs and I hope to convince the Senate of that.

[DownWithTheLeft]

How bout a bill that did nothing but end incarcerations for people found with drugs? 

Because we can seriously cut dangerous crime, and fatalities from drug overdoses, if we legalize hard drugs and I hope to convince the Senate of that.

Well, the Decriminalization of LSD Bill is up very soon, that should be the first real test.  I ask that you support it in principle even if you think amendments should be made

[DownWithTheLeft]

It appears the Decriminalization of LSD Bill is next on tap and Sam has withdrawn the Immigration Bill.  Let the fireworks begin and I plan to be very active on debate as I am the sponsor of the bill (wow what a backlog!)

[DownWithTheLeft]

I missed the debate the first time around and I am still unclear as to what the End to District Amendments does (more specifically what "proportional representation" means in this case)  Could someone give a brief explanation of how senators would be elected?

[Хahar 🤔]

As far as I know, STV.

[Јas]

I missed the debate the first time around and I am still unclear as to what the End to District Amendments does (more specifically what "proportional representation" means in this case)  Could someone give a brief explanation of how senators would be elected?

The form of proportional representation which would be implemented would be STV.

The below quote (taken from this thread which may be of use) contains a number of useful links.

Those unfamiliar with STV may find benefit from the following links:

Wikipedia

• Single Transferable Vote
• History and Use of STV
• Counting STV

I'd also recommend the British Columbia Citizen's Assembly on Electoral Reform site. This contains a number of helpful guides, such as BC-STV Counting.

[Sam Spade]

I will be opposing the SoFA amendment as well.

[Colin]

The Death with Dignity Act is probably unconstitutional unless someone can find me a constitutional power of the Senate that allows for that to be regulated by this body. Unless we are now just assuming that all laws like that are only to apply to DC and the federal territories.