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SteveRogers
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« on: July 06, 2015, 01:41:47 AM »

That's funny.  They've avoided the issue like the plague for a decade and essentially invited gay 'mirage' to become law. Repubs gave up a long time ago. If that's angry, can't help ya.

The battle is over and we lost. Terms of surrender: We want religious freedom and media to stop calling us haters. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/opinion/sunday/the-terms-of-our-surrender.html?_r=0

This battle isn't over. We have a clear path to overturn this. I've been in this fight for a long time and will never bow to this.
Lol what path is that?
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2015, 05:50:34 PM »


In 1967:

The Supreme Court created new rights with its decision in a very real sense. Prior to their it, no one was being denied their right to marriage. Blacks had the right to marry just like everybody else. A white man had the right to marry a white woman and a black man had the right to marry a black woman. On the other side of things, as a white man, I had not the right to marry a black woman. There was absolutely no discrimination here.

... or something.

Loving was discrimination on the basis of race, which violated Civil Rights Act. That's the case I'd make for Loving.  This was literal creation of a new right, a special right. It was legislating from the bench.  Our founders  would be extremely disappointed.

THis country needs strict constructionist judges back on the bench, otherwise we will have at minimum 30 years of progressive reign.


The court's holding in Loving was based on the 14th Amendment's Due Process and Equal Protection clauses, not the Civil Rights Act. You either agree with that decision or you don't.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2015, 09:31:54 PM »

The only sensible response is surrender. It's time to lay down and accept reality. The fight is over, and SSM should be treated as settled law for all eternity. It's sad that SCOTUS has chosen to endorse sin, but it's the way things are and the fact is that the world is not going to end and straight people are not going to be forced to marry gay people. It's time for complete surrender.

Ok, I don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole on this, but what is the scriptural basis for the idea that legalizing sin = endorsing sin?
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2015, 09:55:03 AM »

The only sensible response is surrender. It's time to lay down and accept reality. The fight is over, and SSM should be treated as settled law for all eternity. It's sad that SCOTUS has chosen to endorse sin, but it's the way things are and the fact is that the world is not going to end and straight people are not going to be forced to marry gay people. It's time for complete surrender.

Ok, I don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole on this, but what is the scriptural basis for the idea that legalizing sin = endorsing sin?

1 Timothy 5:20 :

As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.

Voting for a sin-favorable ruling, as 5 justices did here, is the exact opposite of rebuking.



What on Earth do you think the word "rebuke" means?

Even if I accept your premises that that passage must be given its most literal interpretation and that homosexuality is a sin, can you really not fathom the concept that one could strongly condemn someone's actions as immoral while simultaneously recognizing their legal right to make a choice as to whether or not to sin?
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2015, 09:03:48 AM »

SCOTUS ruling that Obama wasn't constitutionally qualified to serve as President
(That overturns every law passed and signed by Obama and all court rulings due to his SCOTUS appointments being nullified) also under a GOP presidency


Oh wow. Are you a birther too now? Anyways, good to see that you're at least acknowledging now that the ruling in fact happened, but you're clearly still in the denial stage if you think any of those scenarios are "clear" paths to victory for you.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2015, 07:52:56 PM »

SCOTUS ruling that Obama wasn't constitutionally qualified to serve as President
(That overturns every law passed and signed by Obama and all court rulings due to his SCOTUS appointments being nullified) also under a GOP presidency


Oh wow. Are you a birther too now? Anyways, good to see that you're at least acknowledging now that the ruling in fact happened, but you're clearly still in the denial stage if you think any of those scenarios are "clear" paths to victory for you.

All of the scenarios have clear ways to victory. If Dr. King were here, he'd be on my side. Your side can't say that.

Just laws square with the moral law of God. This court decision is in full opposition and should be resisted to the full.

You didn't answer the question. Are you a birther? What's the "clear path" to Obama being declared constitutionally ineligible?
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