German intelligence warns of Russian attack on NATO from 2026, media says

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/16/7446764

[PSOL]

Unless they attack Canada, any other NATO nation can hold their own against a weakened Russia with the help of close regional allies. We shouldn't be responding to bluffing.

[DaleCooper]

I really don't think this will happen. If it does then Putin's Russia is over.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I really don't think this will happen. If it does then Putin's Russia is over.

Not if Trump is President, he’d side with Putin

[DaleCooper]

I really don't think this will happen. If it does then Putin's Russia is over.

Not if Trump is President, he’d side with Putin

Putin can't beat NATO even without US help.

[TheReckoning]

Nothing burger.

[CumbrianLefty]

Nothing burger.

Yeah, speculating about possible scenarios like this is the actual job of intelligence services.

[Coldstream]

Europe would defeat Russia without US help if it came to it (which I don’t think is even guaranteed under Trump) and it wouldn’t be close.

[Sir Mohamed]

It would be suicidal for Russia to attack a NATO country. That said, I wouldn't completely rule it out. Most likely, such a scenario would involve a quick and massive attack on the Baltics before NATO can strike back forcefully. Then Putin could offer deal to the West: Cede these countries in exchange for peace, or we're going all in with a potential nuclear war. He might test our unity with that, because some NATO leaders would probably prefer to give up on the Baltics instead of having a war with Russia.

That's why it's important we continue to aid Ukraine with whatever it takes, so Russia's military capabilities are further weakened and he'll never even consider attacking NATO. It's more likely to happen if he give up on Ukraine as that would give Putin the chance to rebuild his military in the next few years.

[CumbrianLefty]

So there aren't significant NATO forces in the Baltic states at the moment?

[President Johnson]

Interesting that there's nothing reported on this here in Germany so far.

Let's put it that way, an attack by military force on NATO becomes more likely the easier we go on Russia by not aiding Ukraine enough. Russia needs to fail in Ukraine so that Putin won't have the capabilities to launch an attack on us. Also, Russia de facto has already declared war on NATO countries by hybrid warfare such as a cyber attacks, election interferance and fake news/propaganda en masse, aimed to destablize Western societies.

[Virginiá]

It would be suicidal for Russia to attack a NATO country. That said, I wouldn't completely rule it out. Most likely, such a scenario would involve a quick and massive attack on the Baltics before NATO can strike back forcefully. Then Putin could offer deal to the West: Cede these countries in exchange for peace, or we're going all in with a potential nuclear war. He might test our unity with that, because some NATO leaders would probably prefer to give up on the Baltics instead of having a war with Russia.

That's why it's important we continue to aid Ukraine with whatever it takes, so Russia's military capabilities are further weakened and he'll never even consider attacking NATO. It's more likely to happen if he give up on Ukraine as that would give Putin the chance to rebuild his military in the next few years.

It wouldn't be the first time European leaders decided that it was better to appease the aggressor and allow them to annex neighboring territories in hopes that would be enough for them. I don't personally think Russia will do this, but it's at least in the realm of possibility that Putin may not believe NATO will hold up, and even more so, may believe that European military stocks are so depleted from assisting Ukraine that sooner than later would be the most ideal time for any kind of Eastern European/Baltic conquests.

However, if China made a move on Taiwan in the 2020s and the US was drawn into that conflict, that might be a dangerous time for Europe if Russia has sufficiently rebuilt and rearmed its military.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Far more plausible that the Russians are preparing for war with NATO as a preventative measure “just in case.” Which, I would expect them to.

That doesn’t mean that they’re about to attack the Baltics or Poland, etc., Again, Putin and his advisors are obsessed with Ukraine in a way that they simply aren’t obsessed with other European countries.

[Pericles]

Interesting that there's nothing reported on this here in Germany so far.

Let's put it that way, an attack by military force on NATO becomes more likely the easier we go on Russia by not aiding Ukraine enough. Russia needs to fail in Ukraine so that Putin won't have the capabilities to launch an attack on us. Also, Russia de facto has already declared war on NATO countries by hybrid warfare such as a cyber attacks, election interferance and fake news/propaganda en masse, aimed to destablize Western societies.

Even keeping Putin embroiled in a quagmire in Ukraine is objectively in the interests of NATO. Why on earth would it help America to give him the breathing space to rebuild his shattered military? Sending money to Ukraine is better value for money than a panicked rush to increase defence budgets.

[CumbrianLefty]

Far more plausible that the Russians are preparing for war with NATO as a preventative measure “just in case.” Which, I would expect them to.

That doesn’t mean that they’re about to attack the Baltics or Poland, etc., Again, Putin and his advisors are obsessed with Ukraine in a way that they simply aren’t obsessed with other European countries.

Yes and no. Putin whines about the Russian minority populations in the Baltic states *a lot*.

[super6646]

Putin will be tossed out of a window faster than he can say "uncle" if this occurs lol. Not saying we shouldn't take the warning seriously, but I doubt anything comes to fruition.

[TheReckoning]

I really don't think this will happen. If it does then Putin's Russia is over.

Would you support “Operation Russian Freedom” if this happens?

[UWS]

Despite that warning Trump is siding with Putin every single chance he gets. That's another reason why Donald Trump is so different from one of his predecessors Republican President Ronald Reagan. Reagan said, quote, "Mr. Gorbatchev, Tear down this Wall" referring to the Berlin Wall and he said that democracy is worth dying for. Meanwhile Trump  wants to destroy democracy in addition of publicly saying that he would let Putin's Russia do whatever the hell they want with other NATO countries, including invading them. Trump said during an interview he wants to let Russia have parts of Ukraine as part of a peace deal in the Ukraine War. Maybe that is what he means by ending the conflict within 24 hours. But as history made it very clear, notaby through Winston Churchill and Ronald Reagan, there's a difference between fighting for peace and surrendering for peace

https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-cuts-trump-let-russia-have-bits-of-ukraine-2023-3
But in that times of dangerous world, Trump wants to be leader of the Free World, free for how long? So here's what's gonna happen if Donald Trump's elected : Vladimir Putin’s Russia will take over Ukraine, invade neighboring Moldova through Transnistria and take over the Eastern Europe as there are European intelligence that said that Vladimir Putin will attempt to attack Europe in the winter of 2024-2025; China will invade Taiwan; and the world will face World War 3
https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectConsent?sessionId=1_cc-session_e9409e56-bf20-4628-9796-5cb2fd15a3f0

[CumbrianLefty]

The bottom line is that Trump hates democracy and freedom as much as Putin. Seriously.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Far more plausible that the Russians are preparing for war with NATO as a preventative measure “just in case.” Which, I would expect them to.

That doesn’t mean that they’re about to attack the Baltics or Poland, etc., Again, Putin and his advisors are obsessed with Ukraine in a way that they simply aren’t obsessed with other European countries.

Yes and no. Putin whines about the Russian minority populations in the Baltic states *a lot*.

It would be best for all parties involved if we could get the Baltic states to change their policies towards Russians, but it's not like Putin is doing much actual good for them. The very awful treatment of Baltic Russians is only going to worsen if Putin actually invades the Baltics and fails.
These are points American leadership ought to communicate to Putin if he even thinks of destabilizing things in Europe further through military action (outside of Ukraine, anyhow).

[Hnv1]

By 2026 they'll roll out T55s with 70 year old men with the current attrition rate in the Ukraine