Current death penalty support by country ?

[warandwar]

The other things, what shift has there has been on the death penalty in the US, hasn't been because people view the death penalty as barbaric or unjustified. Now a lot of liberals just think that everyone on death row is an innocent framed Black man.

Could you rephrase that in a way that makes sense?

[warandwar]

On this topic, the Nebraska legislature is debating death penalty repeal now:
http://www.netnebraska.org/interactive-multimedia/government/unicameral-legislative-session-88

[warandwar]

On this topic, the Nebraska legislature is debating death penalty repeal now:
http://www.netnebraska.org/interactive-multimedia/government/unicameral-legislative-session-88

It would be a great sign if a solidly Republican state would actually abolish it.

But I only believe it if it is actually signed into law ...

Only 30% of Nebraskans support the death penalty.
Support for the death penalty in America cuts across party lines. In Maryland, for example, abolition was held up for several years by Joe Vallario, the Democratic head of the Judiciary Committee.
Remember, North Dakota and Alaska both don't have the death penalty while California, Delaware, Oregon and Washington do. (of course the reasons for that are more complicated)

[warandwar]

On this topic, the Nebraska legislature is debating death penalty repeal now:
http://www.netnebraska.org/interactive-multimedia/government/unicameral-legislative-session-88

It would be a great sign if a solidly Republican state would actually abolish it.

But I only believe it if it is actually signed into law ...

Only 30% of Nebraskans support the death penalty.
Support for the death penalty in America cuts across party lines. In Maryland, for example, abolition was held up for several years by Joe Vallario, the Democratic head of the Judiciary Committee.
Remember, North Dakota and Alaska both don't have the death penalty while California, Delaware, Oregon and Washington do. (of course the reasons for that are more complicated)

Do you have a source for that ?

I seriously doubt that, considering US-wide support is 60-65% and it's traditionally higher in Republican states.

I do
The bill got preliminary approval today.
Not sure if you know this or not, but a major goal of those against state executions today is to get 25 states to abolish the death penalty. At that point, the supreme court has implied that it'd be banned by the 8th amendment.

[warandwar]

The death penalty is in the Constitution (for treason) so the idea that it can be declared unconstitutional without an amendment is pretty dumb.

You are wrong. Article 3 Section 3 :
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

2: The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

[warandwar]

On this topic, the Nebraska legislature is debating death penalty repeal now:
http://www.netnebraska.org/interactive-multimedia/government/unicameral-legislative-session-88

It would be a great sign if a solidly Republican state would actually abolish it.

But I only believe it if it is actually signed into law ...

Only 30% of Nebraskans support the death penalty.
Support for the death penalty in America cuts across party lines. In Maryland, for example, abolition was held up for several years by Joe Vallario, the Democratic head of the Judiciary Committee.
Remember, North Dakota and Alaska both don't have the death penalty while California, Delaware, Oregon and Washington do. (of course the reasons for that are more complicated)

Do you have a source for that ?

I seriously doubt that, considering US-wide support is 60-65% and it's traditionally higher in Republican states.

I do
The bill got preliminary approval today.
Not sure if you know this or not, but a major goal of those against state executions today is to get 25 states to abolish the death penalty. At that point, the supreme court has implied that it'd be banned by the 8th amendment.

That's a poll from the ACLU though.

You need to treat it with 10 truckloads of salt.

PS: I didn't know that with the 25 states, I only knew that that was the goal of the National Popular Vote people.

Just because it's from the ACLU doesn't mean it isn't accurate. People employ pollsters who give them accurate information.
National Popular Vote doesn't need 25 states, it needs 270 Electoral Votes.