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Gustaf
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« on: May 11, 2011, 07:38:28 PM »

I would say that the gulf between Communism and Fascism was actually a lot smaller than that between Social Democracy and Fascism. Make of that what you will. Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 02:19:01 PM »

I would say that the gulf between Communism and Fascism was actually a lot smaller than that between Social Democracy and Fascism. Make of that what you will. Tongue

Still stealing arguments from Hannah Arendt, I see Tongue

The woman who hung out with Heidegger? I know very little about her, so at least not consciously.

If I were to source this feeling it probably comes mostly from my dad and the Social Democratic culture he grew up in.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 02:23:26 PM »

I would say that the gulf between Communism and Fascism was actually a lot smaller than that between Social Democracy and Fascism. Make of that what you will. Tongue
The gulf between communism and fascism is very small indeed. Hitler wanted communists to join the Nazi Party because communism was more appealing than fascism.

I didn't say very small.

Qualitatively, I'd say it goes something like Nazism - Conservatism - Communism - Liberalism - Social  Democracy (all terms in European context of course).

But I've always been of the opinion that National Socialism was rather distinctly different from all the other ideologies and isn't really a natural bedmate of any of them.

(for instance I think Hitler wanted everyone to join the Nazi party, except for the üntermensch. That is partly why they were so successful - at least rhetorically they weren't stuck in the bitter class divide of traditional politics. And before someone asks I'm making all of this up, so it might well be wrong)
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2011, 06:13:19 AM »

I would say that the gulf between Communism and Fascism was actually a lot smaller than that between Social Democracy and Fascism. Make of that what you will. Tongue

Still stealing arguments from Hannah Arendt, I see Tongue

The woman who hung out with Heidegger?

Poor Hannah, still only 'Heidegger's girlfriend'. And then you're wondering who's keeping the sisters down?

Though, yes, your point isn't one that's restricted to Arendt's work. I see it all the time. A marxist ( a term that's preferrable to the vagueness of 'communism', which could easily apply to Gracchus Babeuf or someone as well), of course, would argue that it fascism is, in fact, a logical extension of liberalism.

I was using male domination techniques. Wink

Actually, it was more to underline how unfamiliar I am with her. I know the name, but then mostly from what I read about Heidegger.
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