Iran “concerned over human rights violations in Ireland”

[Jacobtm]

What is your contention? That this isn't occurring in Ireland? That Iranians have no standing to bring charges of racism or xenophobia against the Irish?

The United States is guilty of killing countless civilians in its bombings of Iraq and Afghanistan. The United States is guilty of toppling democratic governments the world over and funding dictatorships and covert wars. The United States is the only country to have used a nuclear bomb on another country.

So if Iran's own domestic problems mean it is disqualified from commenting on others' problems, well the United States long ago abandoned its ability to pass moral judgement on anyone.

[Jacobtm]

The second one.

Ok well then you're living in la-la-land if you think a country that only recently has begun to experience immigration isn't experiencing xenophobia and racism.

[Jacobtm]

The United States is guilty of killing countless civilians in its bombings of Iraq and Afghanistan. The United States is guilty of toppling democratic governments the world over and funding dictatorships and covert wars.

You use some seriously negative phrasing/connotations, but I sincerely hope the US isn't finished with any of those things.

You view toppling democratic governments and bombing civilians in a positive light?

[Jacobtm]

I'm also not sure what the US has to do with a discussion about Iran ignoring the log in their own eye while pointing and laughing at the twig in Ireland's eye.

Your point was that Iran has no standing to be criticizing Ireland, presumably because you view them as guilty of human rights abuses themselves.

My point was, if human rights abuses makes one unable to criticize others for the same thing, then we have no standing to criticize anyone on the human rights front, nor does any government really.

[Jacobtm]

I'm also not sure what the US has to do with a discussion about Iran ignoring the log in their own eye while pointing and laughing at the twig in Ireland's eye.

Your point was that Iran has no standing to be criticizing Ireland, presumably because you view them as guilty of human rights abuses themselves.

My point was, if human rights abuses makes one unable to criticize others for the same thing, then we have no standing to criticize anyone on the human rights front, nor does any government really.

So nobody can call anybody else out on anything?  That doesn't seem productive.

Following your logic, that would be the conclusion.

I think anyone should be able to call out anyone on a wrongdoing.

Though I wish you would be more direct about why you think Iran cannot call out Ireland on racism and xenophobia, which surely does exist.

[Jacobtm]

The Chinese government does the same thing trying to compare Kent State with Tiananmen. They are trying to blur the lines between inevitable faults in societies whose governments largely uphold human rights, and those that blatantly violate them on a systematic level, as part of the basis of the regime's existence.

I think the United States has pretty much always blatantly violated human rights on a systematic level as part of the basis of the regime's existence.

Genocide against the Indigenous people, Slavery, keeping blacks from voting until the 60's/70's, the widespread acceptance/inaction on the subject of illegal labor as the bottom run of our economic ladder.

Not to mention all the illegal wars of agression, innocent civilians killed around the world, violent dictatorships supported. The world order the United States built is highly abusive and violent, and continues to be.