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« Reply #300 on: December 29, 2017, 11:06:50 PM »

Revolution of 1848

PRESIDING MINISTERS of the PHILADELPHIA PARLIAMENT
1. John Quincy Adams (Unaffiliated, Massachusetts) 1848 - 1848
2. Henry Clay (Unaffiliated, Transylvania) 1848 - 1848
3. Abraham Lincoln (Unaffiliated, Illinois) 1848 - 1849




Susquehanna Confederation
1861 - 1865

PRESIDENT of the SUSQUEHANNA CONFEDERATION
Charles Francis Adams Sr. (Unaffiliated, Massachusetts) 1861 - 1865

CHANCELLOR of the SUSQUEHANNA CONFEDERATION
William Henry Seward (Unaffiliated, New York) 1861 - 1865



Federation of American States
1865 - 1918

PRESIDENTS-GENERAL of the AMERICAN FEDERATION
Charles Francis Adams Sr. (Unaffiliated, Massachusetts) 1865 - 1885
Henry Brooks Adams (Unaffiliated, Massachusetts) 1885 - 1918 ^

CHANCELLORS of the AMERICAN FEDERATION
William Henry Seward (Unaffiliated, New York) 1865 - 1872
James Gillespie Blaine (Unaffiliated, Maine) 1872 - 1890
John Milton Hay (Unaffiliated, Illinois) 1890 - 1894
William McKinley (Unaffiliated, Ohio) 1894 - 1900
Joseph Gurney Cannon (Unaffiliated, Illinois) 1900 - 1909
Charles Warren Fairbanks (Unaffiliated, Indiana) 1909 - 1917
Charles Evans Hughes (Unaffiliated, New York) 1917 - 1917

Henry Cabot Lodge Sr. (Center, Massachusetts) 1917 - 1918
Brutus Junius Clay Jr. (Unaffiliated, Transylvania) 1918 - 1918

†died in office     ^resigned, and died thereafter



Cincinnati Republic
1918 - 1933

PRESIDENTS of the CINCINNATI REPUBLIC
1. Eugene Victor Debs (Social Democratic, Indiana) 1919 - 1926
2. John Joseph Pershing (Unaffiliated, Pennsylvania) 1926 - 1933

CHANCELLORS of the CINCINNATI REPUBLIC
Eugene Victor Debs (Social Democratic, Indiana) 1918 - 1919
Allan Louis Benson (Social Democratic, Michigan) 1919 - 1920
Warren Gamaliel Harding (Center, Ohio) 1920 - 1922
Mark Anthony DeWolf Howe (American People's, Massachusetts) 1922 - 1923
John Calvin Coolidge (Center, Massachusetts) 1923 - 1925
Frank Orren Lowden (Unaffiliated, Illinois) 1925 - 1926
John Calvin Coolidge (Center, Massachusetts) 1926 - 1928
Allan Louis Benson (Social Democratic, Michigan) 1928 - 1930
Herbert Clark Hoover (Center, Ohio) 1930 - 1932
William Gibbs McAdoo (Unaffiliated, Georgia) 1932 - 1932
John Loomis Chamberlain (Unaffiliated, New York) 1932 - 1933

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« Reply #301 on: December 30, 2017, 04:20:03 AM »

Fascist America
1933 - 1945

CHANCELLORS of the AMERICAN STATE
Henry Ford (National Socialist American Workers' Party, Michigan) 1933 - 1945
Douglas MacArthur (National Socialist American Workers' Party, Massachusetts) 1945 - 1945
Charles Augustus Lindbergh (Unaffiliated, Michigan) 1945 - 1945

‡committed suicide



Federal Republic of America
since 1949
(reunification with the South, 1991)

CHANCELLORS of the FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF AMERICA
1. Joseph William Martin Jr. (Christian Democratic, Massachusetts) 1949 - 1963
2. Charles Abraham Halleck (Christian Democratic, Indiana) 1963 - 1966
3. Richard Milhous Nixon (Christian Democratic, Ohio) 1966 - 1969
4. Hubert Horatio Humphrey Jr. (Social Democratic, Ohio) 1969 - 1974
5. Birch Evan Bayh II (Social Democratic, Indiana) 1974 - 1982
6. Robert Joseph Dole (Christian Democratic, Ohio) 1982 - 1998
7. Adlai Ewing Stevenson III (Social Democratic, Illinois) 1998 - 2005
8. Mary Elizabeth Alexander Hanford (Christian Democratic, North Carolina) 2005 - incumbent
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« Reply #302 on: December 30, 2017, 02:07:29 PM »
« Edited: December 30, 2017, 09:05:47 PM by MB »

General Secretaries of the Central Committee of the Anti-Communist Party of the United States
1. Joseph McCarthy (1953–1957)† ACPUS
2. J. Edgar Hoover (1957–1972)† ACPUS
3. George Wallace (1972–1979)‡ ACPUS
4. Larry MacDonald (1979–1990)* ACPUS

† – Died in office
‡ – Assassinated
* – Resigned

Presidents of the United States of America
From 1957 to 1990, the Presidency was a mostly ceremonial position.
34. Joseph McCarthy (1953–1957)† ACPUS
35. Douglas MacArthur (1957–1964)† ACPUS
36. Richard Nixon (1964–1965) ACPUS
37. George Wallace (1965–1972)* ACPUS
38. Lester Maddox (1972–1973) ACPUS
39. Barry Goldwater (1973–1981) ACPUS
40. Ronald Reagan (1981–1989) ACPUS
41. Pat Buchanan (1989–1991)** ACPUS
42. Bob Dole (1991–1993) Independent
43. Bob Casey (1993–1997) Solidarity
44. Russ Feingold (1997–2005) Solidarity
45. John Edwards (2005–2009) Solidarity
46. Sarah Palin (2009–2013) Conservative
47. Sherrod Brown (2013–present) Solidarity

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« Reply #303 on: December 30, 2017, 03:35:10 PM »

45. Donald J. Trump(2017-2018)
46. Mike Pence(2018-2021)
47. Kamala Harris(2021-2025)
48. Nikki Haley(2025-2033)
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« Reply #304 on: December 30, 2017, 06:30:27 PM »
« Edited: December 30, 2017, 08:14:29 PM by razze »

Nationalist America
1938-1975

Leaders of the American State
J. Edgar Hoover (National Movement), 1938-1972
Clyde Tolson (NM), 1972-1973R
Archibald Cox (NM), 1973-1975


American Republic
1975-present

Presidents of the United States
Archibald Cox (NM), 1975-1976
Elliot Richardson (NM, then Democratic Party), 1976-1981
Jimmy Carter (D), 1981-1982
Mario Cuomo (Socialist Workers' Party), 1982-1996
Clint Eastwood (People's Party), 1996-2004
Howard Dean (SW), 2004-2011
Mitt Romney (PP), 2011-present
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« Reply #305 on: December 30, 2017, 06:43:55 PM »

I may be going to be turning this into a TL down the road. Do you guys want to take a guess as to what leads to this list of Presidents occurring? I've left asterisks and notations to hint to you when important events or things worth noting take place. If I don't go ahead with the TL, I'll fill you in on the footnotes.

1. George Washington (Non-Affiliated-VA) 1789-1797 *
2. Patrick Henry (Anti-Federalist-VA) 1797-1799 **
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democratic Republican-VA) 1799-1805
4. James Madison (Democratic Republican-VA) 1805-1809

5. Charles C. Pinckney (Federalist-SC) 1809-1817
6. Daniel D. Tompkins (Federalist-NY) 1817-1825

7. Henry Clay (Democratic Republican-KY) 1825-1829
8. Andrew Jackson (Democratic Republican
/Whig-TN) 1829-1841 ***
9. Willie Person Mangum (Whig-NC) 1841-1849
10. Zachary Taylor (Whig-LA) 1849-1851
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11. Daniel Webster (Whig-MA) 1851-1853
12. William Marcy (Democrat-NY) 1853-1857
13. James Buchanan (Democrat-PA) 1857-1861
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14. Jefferson Davis (Democrat/National Unity-MS) 1861-1873 ++
15. Robert E. Lee (National Unity/National-VA) 1873-1877 +++
16. James D. Porter (National-TN) 1877-1885
17. Joseph Wheeler (National-AL) 1885-1889

18. Benjamin Harrison (Popular-IN) 1889-1897 ++++
19. William McKinley (Popular-OH) 1897-1905 #
20. Williams Jennings Bryan (Popular-NE) 1905-1909 ##
21. William Howard Taft (Justice-OH) 1909-1917 ###
22. Champ Clark (Justice-MO) 1917-1921
23. Leonard Wood (Republican-NH) 1921-1927 ####
24. Frank Orren Lowden (Republican-IL) 1927-1937
25. Strom Thurmond (National-SC) 1937-1941
26. Harry S. Truman (Popular-MO) 1941-1949 ^
27. Douglas MacArthur (Republican-NY) 1949-1957 ^^
28. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Non-Affiliated-PA) 1957-1961 ^^^
29. John S. McCain, Jr. (Non-Affiliated-IA) 1961-1969
30. George W. Romney (Republican-MI) 1969-1973
31. Al Haig (Non-Affiliated-PA) 1973-1985 ^^^^
32. John Glenn (Non-Affiliated-OH) 1985-1990 ~
33. Bob Dole (Non-Affiliated-KS) 1990-1995
34. James Stockdale (Non-Affiliated-CA) 1995-1998 ~~
- Robert Byrd (Democrat-WV) 1998-2000
36. Colin Powell (Non-Affiliated-VA) 2000-2005
37. John S. McCain, III (Non-Affiliated-AZ) 2005-2010
38. Mitt Romney (Non-Affiliated-MI) 2010-2015
39. Donald Trump (Non-Affiliated-NY) 2015-2017 ~~~
- Orrin Hatch (Conservative-UT) 2017-2020 ~~~~
40. Joe Heck (Non-Affiliated-NV) 2020-2025


Since this TL fizzled, here are the footnotes.

* - Washington was the only President elected unanimously.
** - Henry passed away in office a little under two years into his administration.
*** - After successfully annexing the Republic of Texas in 1835, Jackson was elected for a third term. The popularity of the annexation of Texas, and support for the later war with Mexico, secured almost two decades of Whig domination.
**** - Taylor passed away in office just over two years into his administration.
+ - Under Buchanan, the issue of the expansion of slavery came to a head after decades of bubbling up. The Administration tore up the Kansas-Nebraska Act and allowed the open expansion of slavery into Western Territories.
++ - Upon the election of Davis in 1860 over Illinois Senator Stephen Douglas, three Northern non-slave states announced their secession from the Union. Over the next four years, 9 states would completely secede from the Union over the issue of slavery as well as parts of 5 other states to cause the First American Civil War, which lasted from 1861 until 1870, when the Union Army forced the surrender of the Yankee Federation at Poughkeepsie, New York. Davis was re-elected President of the Union in 1864 and 1868 under the "National Unity" ticket.
+++ - Under Lee, the National Unity Party became the National Party, as it lost its focus on uniting the Yankee Federation and the Union and became more about squashing the remaining flames of rebellion in the North. Former rebel states did not fully regain voting rights until 1904.
++++ - Harrison had enlisted in the Yankee Federation Army in the early months of the war, but never saw active combat and instead spent the war in an administrative post in Yankee-aligned Northern Indiana. His Popular Party ran on a platform of reuniting the former rebel states and the Union more fully.
# - McKinley spent the war, like Harrison had, in an administrative position in the border state of Ohio. He pushed through Congress the Lee-Grant Bill (named after the two famous Generals-turned-Senators of the War) that restored full voting rights to all former rebel states.
## - Jennings Bryan attempted to push through a progressive agenda, built around agrarian reform and opposition to the Gold Standard of the National Party. He was punished by voters when he attempted to ban the sale and consumption of alcohol and was defeated for re-election in 1908.
### - The Justice Party was focused on weeding out corruption and reducing the role of monopolies on the American economy.
#### - Wood was the first president elected from the former rebel states who actively participated in the First American Civil War. His Republican Party was built around re-hashing the battle over slavery, rather than continuing with the status quo and won the most narrow Electoral College victory will losing the national popular vote. The war of words between North and South was getting so hot in his second term, talk of war was frequent. His death cooled tensions significantly, as his Vice President, Frank Orren Lowden, was much less radical. Many think Wood was poisoned by pro-slavery White House staff.
^ - Truman used his leverage as a Southerner to push through the Wallace-Nixon Act, which banned the distribution of federal tax dollars to any state that allowed the sale of slaves within its borders. Of the 48 states in the Union, 20 had already banned the sale of slaves by 1943, and 15 had banned the practice altogether. Truman was re-elected narrowly in 1944, which sparked the Second American Civil War, this time with 5 Southern states seceding from the Union. The Second American Civil War lasted from 1944 to 1949, with soldiers from almost every major world power fighting on the American continent for one side or the other. Even after the 13 state rebellious Southern Confederacy was put down, the global tensions continued for another 5 years as war spread across Latin America, Asia, and Europe.
^^ - MacArthur took a very hard stance against the Southern Confederacy rebel states, banning them from voting until 1960 and essentially placing the region under a military occupation for the duration of his term. He strong-armed the 17th Amendment, which formally and entirely banned the "holdings of persons in bondage or servitude" anywhere within the United States, the 18th Amendment, which defined citizenship and established equal protection under the law, and the 19th Amendment, which extended the right to vote to all persons over the age of 21.
^^^ -The election of Eisenhower in 1956, coupled with the elections of MacArthur and McCain, compose what is known as "the Decades of the Generals", when Americans turned to trusted military figures to lead the nation during some of the rockiest years across the globe. It was during this time, especially under Eisenhower and McCain, that the role of the President changed from a man actively involved in politics to a kind of "grandfather for the nation", a figure of national unity.
^^^^ - Under Haig, many of the traditions established in the Decades of the Generals were codified. In the 20th Amendment, Presidents were banned from being members of political parties or from campaigning with the support of political parties. The 21st Amendment removed the President's ability to veto budgetary bills, the 22nd Amendment gave the power to appoint Supreme Court Justices to the Senate, and the 23rd Amendment removed his ability to issue pardons or give clemency, vesting those powers in the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. The 24th Amendment changed the term of the President to a non-renewable five year term.
~ - The 25th Amendment, passed against Glenn's wishes, removed the office of Vice President and made the President Pro Tempore the acting President in case of vacancy.
~~ - After proposing an invasion of Iraq, prompted by Iraqi Dictator Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1996, Stockdale was assassinated by an anti-war activist while visiting a memorial for the First American Civil War in Kansas. This was the first confirmed assassination of a sitting President, and the first instance of the 25th Amendment being invoked. The war was prosecuted by acting President Byrd and was a resounding success for the Americans.
~~~ - A businessman known for his brash but successful nature, Trump refused to step into the quiet and dignified role of the President, and he was impeached in 2017, a little over a year into his term. This was the first impeachment of a President of the United States.
~~~~ - Although only acting President, Hatch was the final President to have served in the Second American Civil War.
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« Reply #306 on: December 31, 2017, 08:53:25 AM »

I’m intrigued, Harry. What victorious conquerors split up the United States after 1945?
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« Reply #307 on: December 31, 2017, 07:14:57 PM »

No 22nd Scenario One:

34. Dwight Eisenhower / Richard Nixon (Republican)Sad 1953-1962*
35. Richard Nixon / Vacant (Republican)Sad 1962-1965
      Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican)Sad 1965-1969
36. John F. Kennedy / Terry Sanford (Democratic)Sad 1969-1974**
37. Terry Sanford / Vacant (Democratic)Sad 1974
      Terry Sanford / Henry "Scoop" Jackson (Democratic)Sad 1974-1977
38. Ronald Reagan / Howard Baker (Republican)Sad 1977-1985
39. Jerry Brown / Sam Nunn (Democratic)Sad 1985-1997
40. John McCain / John Engler (Republican)Sad 1997-2005
41. John Edwards / John Kerry (Democratic)Sad 2005-2009
42. Fred Thompson / George Pataki (Republican)Sad 2009-2015***
43. George Pataki / Vacant (Republican)Sad 2015-2016
      George Pataki / Paul Ryan (Republican)Sad 2016-2021
44. Sherrod Brown / Cory Booker (Democratic)Sad 2021-2029
45. Cory Booker / Jeff Merkley (Democratic)Sad 2029-Incumbent

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*= Died in October 1962 of a Heart Attack
**= Died in August 1974 due to Complications from Addison's Disease
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« Reply #308 on: December 31, 2017, 11:52:06 PM »

I’m intrigued, Harry. What victorious conquerors split up the United States after 1945?
That would be the Canadian Federation and the Mexican Republic. The prologue to all this is the collapse of the First Confederacy (what we know as the United States) following the War of American Independence, as the Continental Congress went the way of the Holy Roman Empire. As a result, the original American states never expanded west of the Mississippi River, and Mexico became the dominant North American power after winning her independence from Spain in the early nineteenth century (taking New Orleans in the 1840s and rising to the status of a world military power after intervening on behalf of the Cuban Revolutionaries in the Hundred Days' War of 1898). Canada prospered quietly to the north, growing rich after the oil boom of the 1880s, and won her independence in the Irish fashion shortly before the turn of the century. During the war, she formed an alliance with Britain and Russia (the two remaining old powers in the New World), Mexico, and the Cherokee Nation, as well as other minor North American powers (including the Plains Nations) following the invasion of Dakota in 1939.
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« Reply #309 on: January 01, 2018, 01:01:20 AM »

I’m intrigued, Harry. What victorious conquerors split up the United States after 1945?
That would be the Canadian Federation and the Mexican Republic. The prologue to all this is the collapse of the First Confederacy (what we know as the United States) following the War of American Independence, as the Continental Congress went the way of the Holy Roman Empire. As a result, the original American states never expanded west of the Mississippi River, and Mexico became the dominant North American power after winning her independence from Spain in the early nineteenth century (taking New Orleans in the 1840s and rising to the status of a world military power after intervening on behalf of the Cuban Revolutionaries in the Hundred Days' War of 1898). Canada prospered quietly to the north, growing rich after the oil boom of the 1880s, and won her independence in the Irish fashion shortly before the turn of the century. During the war, she formed an alliance with Britain and Russia (the two remaining old powers in the New World), Mexico, and the Cherokee Nation, as well as other minor North American powers (including the Plains Nations) following the invasion of Dakota in 1939.

Make my alternate history dreams comes true in the New Year—was there a Cold War of sorts between a Canada-led liberal bloc and a collectivist Global South pioneered by some People’s Republic of Mexico? Despite the change, that’s a scenario that is still semi-coherent (though I am unsure how Marxism would spread in a world without the USSR).
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« Reply #310 on: January 01, 2018, 03:30:06 AM »

No 22nd Scenario 2. No Watergate:

37. Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew (Republican)Sad 1969-1973*
      Richard Nixon / Vacant (Republican)Sad 1973
      Richard Nixon / Bob Dole (Republican)Sad 1973-1981
38. Lloyd Bentsen / John Glenn (Democratic)Sad 1981-1989
39. John Glenn / Bob Graham (Democratic)Sad 1989-1993
40. Jack Kemp / Lamar Alexander (Republican)Sad 1993-2005
41. Lamar Alexander / Rudy Giuliani (Republican)Sad 2005-2009
42. Joe Biden / Russ Feingold (Democratic)Sad 2009-2021
43. John Kasich / Marco Rubio (Republican)Sad 2021-2029
44. Kamala Harris / Tim Ryan (Democratic)Sad 2029-Incumbent

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*=VP Agnew Resigns in Disgrace in October 1973
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« Reply #311 on: January 01, 2018, 02:48:07 PM »

No 22nd Scenario 3. Dutch goes for a third:

40. Ronald ReaganR / George Bush (Republican)Sad 1981-1990
41. George Bush / Vacant (Republican)Sad 1990-1991
      George Bush / Bob Dole (Republican)Sad 1991-1997
42. Bill Clinton / Dick Gephardt* (Democratic)Sad 1997-2005
      Bill Clinton / Evan Bayh (Democratic)Sad 2005-2009
43. Jeb Bush / Sam Brownback (Republican)Sad 2009-2017
44. Hillary Clinton / Michael Bennet (Democratic)Sad 2017-2021
45. Marco Rubio / Jeff Flake (Republican)Sad 2021-2025
46. Barack Obama / Martin Heinrich (Democratic)Sad 2025-Incumbent

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R= Resigned in November 1990 for health reasons
*= Declined to Seek Another Term as Vice President in 2004.
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« Reply #312 on: January 01, 2018, 03:20:42 PM »
« Edited: January 04, 2018, 12:42:11 AM by dw93 »

No 22nd Scenario 4. Three Termin' Bill:

42. Bill Clinton / Al Gore* (Democratic)Sad 1993-2001
      Bill Clinton / John Kerry (Democratic)Sad 2001-2005
43. George W. Bush / Bill Frist (Republican)Sad 2005-2009
44. Al Gore / Barack Obama (Democratic)Sad 2009-2017
45. Barack Obama / Sherrod Brown (Democratic)Sad 2017-2021
46. Rob Portman / Tom Cotton (Republican)Sad 2021-2029
47. Kirsten Gillibrand / Jeff Merkley (Democratic)Sad 2029-2033*
48. George P. Bush / Paul Ryan (Republican)Sad 2033-Incumbent

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*= The Gillibrand/Merkley Ticket would win the Popular Vote by 1 Million votes in 2032, despite losing the electoral vote and the election.
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« Reply #313 on: January 02, 2018, 01:42:08 AM »

25. William Jennings Bryan (Democrat-Nebraska) 1897–1905
26. William Howard Taft (Republican–Ohio) 1905–1909
27. John W. Kern (Democrat–Indiana) 1909–1917
28. Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive–New York) 1917–1921
29. Robert La Follette (Progressive–Wisconsin) 1921–1925†
30. Burton K. Wheeler (Progressive–Montana) 1925–1929
31. Herbert Hoover (Republican–California) 1929–1933
32. Huey Long (Progressive–Louisiana) 1933–1937
33. William Borah (National Republican–Idaho) 1937–1940†
34. Frank Knox (National Republican–Illinois) 1940–1941
35. Huey Long (Progressive–Louisiana) 1941–1949
36. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican–Ohio) 1949–1957
37. Estes Kefauver (Progressive National–Tennessee) 1957–1961
38. Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican–Massachusetts) 1961–1969
39. Wayne Morse (Progressive National–Oregon) 1969–1974†
40. George Wallace (Progressive National–Alabama) 1974–1981
41. George H. W. Bush (Republican–Texas) 1981–1989
42. Mike Gravel (Progressive National–Alaska) 1989–1997
43. Bill Clinton (Republican–Arkansas) 1997–1998*
44. Colin Powell (Republican–New York) 1998–2001
45. Jerry Brown (Progressive National–California) 2001–2005
46. Mitt Romney (Republican–Massachusetts) 2005–2009
47. Russ Feingold (Progressive National–Wisconsin) 2009–present


2008 Election
Russ Feingold (PN–WI)/Walter B. Jones (PN–NC) 322; 52.8%
Mitt Romney (R–MA)/J. C. Watts (R–OK) 216; 44.0%


2012 Election
Russ Feingold (PN–WI)/Walter B. Jones (PN–NC) 320; 49.4%
J. C. Watts (R–OK)/Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R–TX): 218; 42.3%
Thomas Massie (L–KY)/Mary Ruwart (L–TX): 0; 6.0%


2016 Election
Russ Feingold (PN–WI)/Walter B. Jones (PN–NC): 396; 56.8%
Michael Bloomberg (R–NY)/Rahm Emanuel (R–IL): 132; 33.7%
Mia Love (Tea–UT)/Raul Labrador (T–ID): 10; 7.5%
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« Reply #314 on: January 02, 2018, 02:09:42 AM »

25. William Jennings Bryan (Democrat-Nebraska) 1897–1905
26. William Howard Taft (Republican–Ohio) 1905–1909
27. John W. Kern (Democrat–Indiana) 1909–1917
28. Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive–New York) 1917–1921
29. Robert La Follette (Progressive–Wisconsin) 1921–1925†
30. Burton K. Wheeler (Progressive–Montana) 1925–1929
31. Herbert Hoover (Republican–California) 1929–1933
32. Huey Long (Progressive–Louisiana) 1933–1937
33. William Borah (National Republican–Idaho) 1937–1940†
34. Frank Knox (National Republican–Illinois) 1940–1941
35. Huey Long (Progressive–Louisiana) 1941–1949
36. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican–Ohio) 1949–1957
37. Estes Kefauver (Progressive National–Tennessee) 1957–1961
38. Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican–Massachusetts) 1961–1969
39. Wayne Morse (Progressive National–Oregon) 1969–1974†
40. George Wallace (Progressive National–Alabama) 1974–1981
41. George H. W. Bush (Republican–Texas) 1981–1989
42. Mike Gravel (Progressive National–Alaska) 1989–1997
43. Bill Clinton (Republican–Arkansas) 1997–1998*
44. Colin Powell (Republican–New York) 1998–2001
45. Jerry Brown (Progressive National–California) 2001–2005
46. Mitt Romney (Republican–Massachusetts) 2005–2009
47. Russ Feingold (Progressive National–Wisconsin) 2009–present


2008 Election
Russ Feingold (PN–WI)/Walter B. Jones (PN–NC) 322; 52.8%
Mitt Romney (R–MA)/J. C. Watts (R–OK) 216; 44.0%


2012 Election
Russ Feingold (PN–WI)/Walter B. Jones (PN–NC) 320; 49.4%
J. C. Watts (R–OK)/Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R–TX): 218; 42.3%
Thomas Massie (L–KY)/Mary Ruwart (L–TX): 0; 6.0%


2016 Election
Russ Feingold (PN–WI)/Walter B. Jones (PN–NC): 396; 56.8%
Michael Bloomberg (R–NY)/Rahm Emanuel (R–IL): 132; 33.7%
Mia Love (Tea–UT)/Raul Labrador (T–ID): 10; 7.5%

Positions (In this scenario not all politicians have the exact same positions as they do IRL):

Progressive National Party:
Anti-globalism
Populism
Non-interventionism


Republican Party:
Moderate conservatism
Internationalism
Free markets
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« Reply #315 on: January 02, 2018, 06:36:39 PM »
« Edited: January 04, 2018, 12:42:44 AM by dw93 »

No 22nd Scenario 5. Dubya does it somehow:

43. George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican)Sad 2001-2005
44. John Kerry / John Edwards (Democratic)Sad 2005-2009
45. George W. Bush / Mitt Romney (Republican)Sad 2009-2017
46. Bernie Sanders / Joaquin Castro (Democratic)Sad 2017-2021
47. Brian Sandoval / John Huntsman (Republican)Sad 2021-2029
48. Kamala Harris / Richard Cordray (Democratic)Sad 2029-Incumbent
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« Reply #316 on: January 02, 2018, 08:31:46 PM »

43. George W. Bush (R-Texas) 2001-2002A
44. Gale Norton (R-Colo.) 2002-2005
45. Howard Dean (D, then I-Vt.) 2005-2009B
46. Russ Feingold (Democratic Socialists of America-Wisc.) 2009-2010C
47. Maxine Waters (DSA-Calif.) 2010-2013
48. Donald J. Trump (I-N.Y.) 2013D
49. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) 2013-2015D
50. John Lewis (I-Ga.) 2015-2017
51. Jason Kander (Progressive-Mo.) 2017-2025E
52. George P. Bush (R-Texas) 2025-2029
53. Tulsi Gabbard (DSA-Hawaii) 2029-2030F
54. Keith Ellison (DSA-Minn.) 2030-2033
55. Jason Kander (P-Mo.) 2033-2041
56. Chris Hurst (P-Va.) 2041-2049
57. Marilinda García (R-N.H.) 2049-

A - Assassinated in 2002 State of the Union terrorist attack, designated survivor was Interior Secy. Gale Nroton
B - Elected after the War on Terror grew much larger than IRL, Democratic Party falls apart around this time
C - Third party which grew in popularity after the worsening of the war and the 2007 financial crisis, assassinated by a far-right extremist
D - Elected much like in real life, but with times even more turbulent than in real life, he threw his hands up and resigned, leaving an inexperienced VP in charge who was impeached and replaced by the Speaker of the House
E - Kander and Bush's presidencies are considered unusually stable for this era
F - Impeached
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« Reply #317 on: January 02, 2018, 08:39:40 PM »

Presidents of the United States of America:
1. George Washington (Independent-VA) 1789-1797
2. John Adams (Federalist-MA) 1797-1805
3. Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (Federalist-SC) 1805-1813
4. DeWitt Clinton (Democratic Republican-NY) 1813-1817
5. James Monroe (Whig-VA) 1817-1821
6. John Quincy Adams (Federalist-MA) 1821-1829
7. Andrew Jackson (Whig-TN) 1829-1837
8. Hugh Lawson White (Whig-TN) 1837-1838
--. Martin Van Buren (Whig-NY) 1838-1841
9. Martin Van Buren (Whig-NY) 1841-1845
10. Henry Clay (Federalist-KY) 1845-1848
--. Daniel Webster (Federalist-MA) 1848-1849
11. Martin Van Buren (Whig-NY) 1849-1853
12. Winfield Scott (Federalist-VA) 1853-1857
13. James Buchanan (Federalist-PA) 1857-1861
14. Abraham Lincoln (Federalist-IL) 1861-1869
15. Horatio Seymour (Federalist-NY) 1869-1877
16. Green Clay Smith (Reform-KY) 1877-1881
17. Winfield Scott Hancock (Federalist-PA) 1881-1885
18. Benjamin Butler (Reform-MA) 1885-1889
19. Benjamin Harrison (Federalist-IN) 1889-1893
20. James B. Weaver (Reform-IA) 1893-1897
21. William Jennings Bryan (Reform-NE) 1897-1905
22. Theodore Roosevelt (Federalist-NY) 1905-1909
23. Eugene V. Debs (Reform-IN) 1909-1913
24. Theodore Roosevelt (Federalist-NY) 1913-1917
25. Charles Evan Hughes ('Anti-Reelection' Federalist-NY) 1917-1921
26. Eugene V. Debs (Reform-IN) 1921-1921
--. Parley P. Christensen (Reform-UT) 1921-1925
27. Robert M. La Follette (Reform-WI) 1925-1925
--. Charles W. Bryan (Reform-NE) 1925-1929
28. Herbert Hoover (Federalist-CA) 1929-1937
29. Franklin D. Roosevelt (National Union [Federalist]-NY) 1937-1945
30. Norman Thomas (Reform-NY) 1945-1953
31. Douglas MacArthur (Federalist-AR) 1953-1957
32. Adlai Stevenson II (Federalist-IL) 1957-1961
33. Richard Nixon (Federalist-CA) 1961-1965
34. Lyndon B. Johnson (Reform-TX) 1965-1969
35. Richard Nixon (Federalist-CA) 1969-1973
36. George McGovern (Reform-SD) 1973-1977
37. Jimmy Carter (Reform-GA) 1977-1985
38. Walter Mondale (Reform-MN) 1985-1989
39. George H. W. Bush (Federalist-TX) 1989-1993
40. Ross Perot (Reform-TX) 1993-2001
41. Ralph Nader (Reform-CT) 2001-2005
42. John Kerry (Federalist-MA) 2005-2009
43. John McCain (Federalist-AZ) 2009-2013
44. Gary Johnson (Reform-NM) 2013-present

† – Died in office
‡ – Assassinated (N/A)
* – Resigned



Vice Presidents of the United States of America:
1. John Adams (Federalist-MA) 1789-1797 (Pres. Washington)
2. Thomas Jefferson (Democratic Republican-VA) 1797-1801 (Pres. Adams)
3. Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (Federalist-SC) 1801-1805 (Pres. Adams)
4. James Madison (Democratic Republican-VA) 1805-1809 (Pres. Pinckney)
5. Rufus King (Federalist-NY) 1809-1813 (Pres. Pinckney)
6. John Quincy Adams (Federalist-MA) 1813-1817 (Pres. Clinton)
7. Levi Lincoln Sr. (Whig-MA) 1817-1820† (Pres. Monroe)
--. VACANT 1820-1821 (Pres. Monroe)
8. Richard Stockton (Federalist-NJ) 1821-1825 (Pres. Adams)
9. Henry Clay (Federalist-KY) 1825-1829 (Pres. Adams)
10. William Wirt (Whig-MA) 1829-1834† (Pres. Jackson)
--. VACANT 1834-1837 (Pres. Jackson)
11. Martin Van Buren (Whig-NY) 1837-1841 (Pres. White; Acting President himself)
12. John Tyler (Whig-VA) 1841-1845 (Pres. Van Buren)
13. Daniel Webster (Federalist-MA) 1845-1849 (Pres. Clay; Acting President himself)
14. Lewis Cass (Whig-MI) 1849-1853 (Pres. Van Buren)
15. John P. Hale (Federalist-NH) 1853-1857 (Pres. Scott)
16. John Bell (Federalist-TN) 1857-1869 (Pres. Buchanan; Pres. Lincoln)
17. Francis Preston Blair Jr. (Federalist-MO) 1869-1875† (Pres. Seymour)
--. VACANT 1875-1877 (Pres. Seymour)
18. William Allen (Reform-OH) 1877-1881 (Pres. Smith)
19. Lucius Quintus Cincinnatus Lamar II (Federalist-MS) 1881-1885 (Pres. Hancock)
20. Alson Streeter (Reform-IL) 1885-1889 (Pres. Butler)
21. George Washington Custis Lee (Federalist-VA) 1889-1891* (Pres. Harrison)
--. VACANT 1891-1893 (Pres. Harrison)
22. William A. Poynter (Reform-NE) 1893-1897 (Pres. Weaver)
23. Thomas E. Watson (Reform-GA) 1897-1905 (Pres. Bryan)
24. William Howard Taft (Federalist-OH) 1905-1909 (Pres. Roosevelt)
25. Robert M. La Follette (Reform-WI) 1909-1913 (Pres. Debs)
26. Woodrow Wilson (Federalist-NJ) 1913-1916* (Pres. Roosevelt)
--. VACANT 1916-1917 (Pres. Roosevelt)
27. John M. Parker ('Anti-Reelection' Federalist-LA) 1917-1921 (Pres. Hughes)
28. Parley P. Christensen (Reform-UT) 1921-1925 (Pres. Debs; Acting President himself)
29. Charles W. Bryan (Reform-NE) 1925-1929 (Pres. La Follette; Acting President himself)
30. John Nance Garner (Federalist-TX) 1929-1933 (Pres. Hoover)
31. Alf Landon (Federalist-KS) 1933-1937 (Pres. Hoover)
32. Alben W. Barkley (National Union [Reform]-KY) 1937-1945 (Pres. Roosevelt)
33. Jeannette Rankin (Reform-MT) 1945-1953 (Pres. Thomas)
34. Adlai Stevenson II (Federalist-IL) 1953-1957 (Pres. MacArthur)
35. Richard Nixon (Federalist-CA) 1957-1961 (Pres. Stevenson)
36. Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (Federalist-MA) 1961-1965 (Pres. Nixon)
37. Wayne Morse (Reform-OR) 1965-1969 (Pres. Johnson)
38. Nelson Rockefeller (Federalist-NY) 1969-1973 (Pres. Nixon)
39. Warren Magnuson (Reform-WA) 1973-1977 (Pres. McGovern)
40. Walter Mondale (Reform-MN) 1977-1985 (Pres. Carter)
41. Gary Hart (Reform-CO) 1985-1989 (Pres. Mondale)
42. John Kerry (Federalist-MA) 1989-1993 (Pres. Bush)
43. Skip Humphrey (Reform-MN) 1993-2001 (Pres. Perot)
44. Al Gore (Reform-TN) 2001-2005 (Pres. Nader)
45. Rick Perry (Federalist-TX) 2005-2009 (Pres. Kerry)
46. Joe Lieberman (Federalist-CT) 2009-2013 (Pres. McCain)
47. Jill Stein (Reform-MA) 2013-present (Pres. Johnson)

† – Died in office
‡ – Assassinated (N/A)
* – Resigned
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« Reply #318 on: January 02, 2018, 09:34:22 PM »

1941-1944: Hiram Johnson*/Thomas Dewey(R)
1944-1945: Thomas Dewey/vacant
1945-1953: Thomas Dewey**/Theodore Roosevelt Jr.(R)
1953-1957: Joseph McCarthy/Paul Dever(D)
1957-1961: Robert F. Bradford/Margaret Chase Smith(R)


*Johnson ran a surprising campaign. He pledged to maintain the New Deal, centralize and expand the Federal Reserve, and raise military salaries by 10%. While McNutt campaigns as a strong interventionist, Johnson pledges to be “tough but fair.” Johnson enters the war after Pearl Harbor, saying that “An attack on American democracy is one that can only be responded to with force. We will fight to the end. We will fight the dictators that have enslaved Europe and most of Asia. We will not give up, not while blood runs through me.” Johnson makes an air trip to London and begins co-ordinating with Churchill. A telephone line is directly connected to the White House, and the two men communicate on a daily basis, building up their militaries. However, on 2 March 1944, Johnson is assassinated by Ernest Peter Burger, who is assisted by unknown Ku Klux Klan members.
**On May 3, two months after taking office, Dewey had organized the “Stuffed Bear Offensive,” led by Theodore Roosevelt III(better known as Junior). It was a stunning success, but France would fall into civil war that took four years to end, as Mussolini and Franco entered the conflict. It wasn’t until the two Balkan Kings, Peter II and Nicholas I, attacked Italy that the war would turn. Dewey, meanwhile, reduced most New Deal spending by 10-20 percent, created a progressive corporate bracket of 12%/22%/32%/42%, while putting the income taxes to 15%/35%/55%, making the tax system more and more efficient. A federal sales tax of 10% was also instated. Finally, Dewey signed a “Food Stamp Act” and universal healthcare(almost revenue neutral), raised the minimum wage to $1.25 an hour(within seven years, raising it thirty cents for the first year and the third year, with a one year gap,, and then ten cents each year after that.), and began reducing the size of the military. Overall, Dewey was very popular, as his reforms allowed a slowing wartime economy to stabilize. The production of weapons was slowly weaned, with the excess being sent to Germany and the Balkans to help build up their militaries. Dewey would receive a Nobel Peace Prize for settling a dispute between Germany and Russia: Prime Minister Nikita Khrushchev and Chancellor Theodore Heuss were pulling their parties back, but Stalinist elements in Russia engaged in a firefight with German Neo-Nazis, with thousands on each side. Khrushchev would be forced to resign, as the liberals withdrew from their coalition with his social democratic “Worker’s Party.” Dewey negotiated with Khrushchev, and eventually convinced the latter to create the “Social Democrats.” Konni Zilliacus, the head of the Finnish Liberal-Socialist Alliance, was elected Prime Minister as a compromise between Finnish autonomists, who wanted their own governor and regional parliament, the Liberals, the Royalists, and the Social Democrats.



The Second Great War and results: Roosevelt landed 50,000 troops with the Free French, almost thirty miles from Paris. At the same time, 350,000 men landed in Normandy, while another 550,000 landed in Brittany. With almost 100 tanks(one for every thousand men, and the remaining fifty with the Paris attack), the Nazis occupying France had little chance of succeeding. The Russians pushed at the same time, but they were stalled at the Second Battle of Stalingrad - the first had taken 800,000 German lives and 1,550,000 Russian lives, and the second would take 300,000 Axis men and almost 550,000 Russians. The remaining Russian soldiers continued to push into Ukraine as the Western forces entered Alsace-Lorraine. By the end of the war, Poland was almost partitioned. However, Germany held elections with a surprising result: Theodor Heuss, a liberal, was at the head of a coalition with royalists. With a fascist movement on the rise in France and a civil war in that country as well as Poland, the Western powers needed a counterbalance. Wilhelm, Crown Prince of Germany, was made Emperor of Germany, with most of the imperial borders restored. In the Balkans, the former Prince Nicholas was made King of Est Telaj, which was Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Slovakia, while his nephew, Peter II, became King of Yugoslavia - Serbia, Albania, Montenegro, Croatia, and Bosnia. Austria, Czechia, and Slovenia became the Confederation of the Danube. Nicholas, whose wife had died during in 1942, married the brother of Tsar Alexander IV - Grand Duchess Anastasia. René Pleven, the French President, eventually defeated communist and fascist forces, pushing through into Italy and Spain, destroying the remaining fascist regimes.
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« Reply #319 on: January 02, 2018, 09:49:31 PM »

44. Phil Bredesen (D-Tennessee) 2009-2017 [Victories - 2008:


Bredesen/Lampson: 464/ 73.4%
McCain/Palin: 74/ 24.2%

2012:


Bredesen/Lampson: 509/ 83.4%
Kasich/Paul: 29/ 16.4%]

45. Nick Lampson (D-Texas) 2017-2025 [Victories - 2016:


Lampson/Altmire: 332/ 54.5%
Jeb Bush/Christie: 206/ 43.4%

2020:


Lampson/Altmire: 273/47.8%
Romney/Ryan: 265/50.2%]

46. Ivanka Trump (R-New York) 2025-2033 [Victories - 2024:


Trump/Cruz: 350/67%
Altmire/Clinton: 188/30.3%

2028:


Trump/Cruz: 275/51.4%
Chelsea Clinton/Kamala Harris: 263/47.5% ]

47. Elizabeth Warren (Ds-Massachusetts) 2033-Incumbent [Victory - 2032:


Warren/Brown: 347/ 48.7%
Gillespie/Jennah Bush Hager: 174/42.3%
Biden/Swift: 17/7.5%]

Ds is the Democratic Socialist Party, which was founded in 2027 due to Bernie Sander's dissatisfaction with the Conservative ideals that had taken over the Democratic party after Bredesen. It didn't run in the 2028 election due to it being brand new, but it picked up every Democratic state that was won in 2028 in the 2030 midterm Election and took away the Democratic states that were the most progressive/socialist in nature. Warren took over after Bernie's death in 2030.
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« Reply #320 on: January 02, 2018, 10:27:57 PM »

41. George H. W. Bush (R-Texas) 1989–1993† VP: Clint Eastwood
42. Clint Eastwood (R-California) 1993–2001 VP: Pete Domenici (after Feb. 1994)
43. Wesley Clark (D-Arkansas) 2001–2005 VP: Bill Bradley
44. Rick Santorum (R-Pennsylvania) 2005–2009 VP: Tim Pawlenty
45. Brian Schweitzer (D-Montana) 2009–2017 VP: Bill Richardson
46. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) 2017–present VP: Steve Beshear

†–Bush was assassinated December 22, 1993.

Selected Elections:

1996

Clint Eastwood (R-California)/Pete Domenici (R-New Mexico): 317
Al Gore (D-Tennessee)/John Lewis (D-Georgia): 221

2000

Wesley Clark (D-Arkansas)/Bill Bradley (D-New Jersey): 334
Pete Domenici (R-New Mexico)/George W. Bush (R-Texas): 204

2012

Brian Schweitzer (D-Montana)/Bill Richardson (D-New Mexico): 378
Herman Cain (R-Georgia)/Kelly Ayotte (R-New Hampshire): 160
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« Reply #321 on: January 03, 2018, 02:56:03 PM »

32) Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic, Federalist-NY) 1933-1945
33) Harry S. Truman (Federalist-MO) 1945-1949
34) Adlai Stevenson (Federalist-IL) 1949-1957
35) Thomas E. Dewey (Republican-NY) 1957-1961
36) John F. Kennedy (Federalist-MA) 1961-1969
37) Estes Kefauver (Populist-TN) 1969-1977
38) Nelson Rockefeller (Federalist-NY) 1977-1985
39) Frank Church (Populist-ID) 1985-1993
40) Mario Cuomo (Federalist-NY) 1993-2001
41) Paul Tsongas (Federalist-MA) 2001-2005
42) Blanche Lincoln (Populist-MO) 2005-2013
43) Mitt Romney (Federalist-MA) 2013-2021
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« Reply #322 on: January 03, 2018, 03:07:24 PM »

No Third Term for FDR

32.  Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) / John Nance Garner (D-TX); 1933-41
33.  Robert A. Taft (R-OH) / William Richards Castle, Jr. (R-HI); 1941-45
34.  Cordell Hull (D-TN) / Claude Pepper (D-FL); 1945-53
35.  Claude Pepper (D-FL) / Estes Kefauver (D-TN); 1953-57
36.  Richard M. Nixon (R-CA) / Prescott Bush (R-CT); 1957-62*
37.  Prescott Bush (R-CT) / VACANT; 1962-65
38.  John F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Terry Sanford (D-NC); 1965-69
39.  George Romney (R-MI) / Jim Rhodes (R-OH); 1969-77

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« Reply #323 on: January 04, 2018, 01:14:39 AM »

No 22nd Scenario 6. Barack goes for a third:

44. Barack Obama / Joe Biden (Democratic)Sad 2009-2021
45. Ted Cruz / Nikki Haley (Republican)Sad 2021-2029
46. Nikki Haley / Adam Kinzinger (Republican)Sad 2029-2033
47. Gavin Newsom / Tim Ryan (Democratic)Sad 2033-Incumbent
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« Reply #324 on: January 04, 2018, 01:25:06 PM »
« Edited: January 04, 2018, 03:24:09 PM by WestVegeta »

41) Vice Pres. George Bush* (R-TX)/Sen. J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1994
Def. 1988: Gov. Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
Def. 1992: Fmr. Gov. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

42) Vice Pres. J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN)/Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) 1994-1997

43) Gov. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN) 1997-2005
Def. 1996: Pres. J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN)/Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
Def. 2000: Gov. Tommy Thompson (R-WI)/Fmr. Sec. Lamar Alexander (R-TN)

44) Sen. George Allen (R-VA)/Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2005-2009
Def. 2004: Vice Pres. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)

45) Sen. John Edwards (D-NC)/Gov. Phil Bredesen (D-TN) 2009-2017
Def. 2008: Pres. George Allen (R-VA)/Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Def. 2012: Gov. Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)

46) Gov. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 2017-2021
Def. 2016: Vice Pres. Phil Bredesen (D-TN)/Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)

47) Sen. Gavin Newsom (D-CA)/Fmr. Attorney General Barack Obama (D-IL) 2021-present
Def. 2020: Pres. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)

*Resigned in 1994 due to failing health from complications from Parkinsons
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