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« on: April 13, 2008, 11:39:18 PM »

Virginia's Green Party seems a little bit different... at least based on their website.

http://votejoinrun.us/

"Winners for Virginia! Common Sense Conservative Greens!"
"Fiscally Conservative, Socially Responsible"

I guess their ideology is more like the Green Parties in places like Canada where they really aren't the furthest left-wing party but are environmentally minded.

My favorite quote, from the Tom Williams page:
"Winning is getting on the ballot."
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2008, 11:42:20 PM »

Wasn't the Green Party essentially hijacked by NoVa-based supporters of additional mass transit?

Kind of my perfect party, actually.  Fiscally conservative, socially liberal, pro-mass transit.  Too bad they're irrelevant.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2008, 11:47:17 PM »

These Virginia Greens aren't associated with the national Greens currently, hence the name Independent Green party. In fact they've never been associated with the national Green Party - the only reason they have Green in their name is too confuse voters who want to vote for Greens. Think of them as the Independence Party of Minnesota or New York. The actually Virginia Greens can be found here: http://www.vagreenparty.org/

Alcon is basically right though. The party has gone completely obsessive on mass transit and overall a bit cuckoo.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2008, 11:51:59 PM »

Alcon is basically right though. The party has gone completely obsessive on mass transit and overall a bit cuckoo.

Yeah, they are almost totally one-issue.  On paper they sound great, but other than a relatively strong (I think) U.S. Senate candidate (who people were afraid would spoil the election for Webb), they're pretty much the marijuana party except with buses.

Kind of a shame...although good for the Virginia Democrats.  "Green" in the name + libertarian + NoVa transportation centric = nightmare for the Dems there if they were a reputable party.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2008, 11:57:42 PM »

Alcon is basically right though. The party has gone completely obsessive on mass transit and overall a bit cuckoo.

Yeah, they are almost totally one-issue.  On paper they sound great, but other than a relatively strong (I think) U.S. Senate candidate (who people were afraid would spoil the election for Webb), they're pretty much the marijuana party except with buses.

Kind of a shame...although good for the Virginia Democrats.  "Green" in the name + libertarian + NoVa transportation centric = nightmare for the Dems there if they were a reputable party.

Interestingly, some supporters of George Allen (possibly even him himself, I can't recall exactly) claim that it was the Independent Greens who cost Allen the election.
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2008, 12:02:25 AM »

Alcon is basically right though. The party has gone completely obsessive on mass transit and overall a bit cuckoo.

Yeah, they are almost totally one-issue.  On paper they sound great, but other than a relatively strong (I think) U.S. Senate candidate (who people were afraid would spoil the election for Webb), they're pretty much the marijuana party except with buses.

Kind of a shame...although good for the Virginia Democrats.  "Green" in the name + libertarian + NoVa transportation centric = nightmare for the Dems there if they were a reputable party.

Interestingly, some supporters of George Allen (possibly even him himself, I can't recall exactly) claim that it was the Independent Greens who cost Allen the election.

Parker's showings correlated pretty well with Nader's, and she didn't do well in Fairfax.  I think that indicates that voters weren't paying attention (surprise surprise) and that Allen's people are full of crap Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2008, 12:08:55 AM »

Alcon is basically right though. The party has gone completely obsessive on mass transit and overall a bit cuckoo.

Yeah, they are almost totally one-issue.  On paper they sound great, but other than a relatively strong (I think) U.S. Senate candidate (who people were afraid would spoil the election for Webb), they're pretty much the marijuana party except with buses.

Kind of a shame...although good for the Virginia Democrats.  "Green" in the name + libertarian + NoVa transportation centric = nightmare for the Dems there if they were a reputable party.

Interestingly, some supporters of George Allen (possibly even him himself, I can't recall exactly) claim that it was the Independent Greens who cost Allen the election.

Parker's showings correlated pretty well with Nader's, and she didn't do well in Fairfax.  I think that indicates that voters weren't paying attention (surprise surprise) and that Allen's people are full of crap Tongue

Well, no matter. The important thing is...

Let's vote for Gail!
She's for light rail!
Vote Gail Parker US Senate!
She's independent!
She won't forget it!
Vote Gail Parker US Senate!
Let's Vote for Gail!
She's for light rail!
Vote Gail Parker US Senate!
She's independent!
She won't forget it!
Vote Gail Parker US Senate!
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 12:29:15 AM »

A "green" party with normal economic policies could probably be quite successful in this country.  The Green's in America come across, at least to me, as socialists wearing a tie-dye Tshirts.
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 12:40:36 AM »

A "green" party with normal economic policies could probably be quite successful in this country.  The Green's in America come across, at least to me, as socialists wearing a tie-dye Tshirts.

Maybe a Ventura-esque Green Party could do quite well.
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 06:59:34 AM »

Cool, I like them. Definitely.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 07:07:58 AM »


VA is free from all the loonies, but we're trying.
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 07:29:57 AM »

They've gotten into trouble before for endorsing all independent/minor party candidates on the ballot, to the point of claiming that they're Independent Green candidates.
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2008, 07:47:43 AM »

They've gotten into trouble before for endorsing all independent/minor party candidates on the ballot, to the point of claiming that they're Independent Green candidates.

Weren't they the guys behind Potts?
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2008, 08:18:02 AM »

A "green" party with normal economic policies could probably be quite successful in this country.  The Green's in America come across, at least to me, as socialists wearing a tie-dye Tshirts.

Just as Libertarians come off to me as Darwinist anarchists wrapped in American flags... but that's neither here nor there.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 05:44:45 PM »

They've gotten into trouble before for endorsing all independent/minor party candidates on the ballot, to the point of claiming that they're Independent Green candidates.

Weren't they the guys behind Potts?

No, Potts was pretty much his own creation, although I believe his campaign was partially financed by one or two former Reform Party/Jesse Ventura backers.
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2008, 06:08:21 PM »

A "green" party with normal economic policies could probably be quite successful in this country.  The Green's in America come across, at least to me, as socialists wearing a tie-dye Tshirts.

Just as Libertarians come off to me as Darwinist anarchists wrapped in American flags... but that's neither here nor there.

And what's wrong with that? Wink
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