Sabato's final prediction: R+8 in Senate, R+9 in House
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 09, 2024, 11:22:10 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  Congressional Elections (Moderators: Brittain33, GeorgiaModerate, Gass3268, Virginiá, Gracile)
  Sabato's final prediction: R+8 in Senate, R+9 in House
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Sabato's final prediction: R+8 in Senate, R+9 in House  (Read 1533 times)
JRP1994
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,048


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: November 03, 2014, 04:43:03 PM »

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/the-crystal-balls-final-2014-picks/

Logged
KCDem
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,928


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2014, 04:44:13 PM »

Loony Larry strikes again!
Logged
Sprouts Farmers Market ✘
Sprouts
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,771
Italy


Political Matrix
E: -4.90, S: 1.74

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2014, 05:03:25 PM »

Hard to argue anything definitely. Looks about right though Alaska is true toss-up. I couldn't blame someone either way on that. Maybe even Kansas too.
Logged
Consciously Unconscious
Liberty Republican
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,453
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2014, 06:15:04 PM »

This has been my prediction for a few days now. 
Logged
Ljube
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,067
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2014, 06:39:21 PM »

Mine too.
Logged
SWE
SomebodyWhoExists
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,334
United States


P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2014, 07:24:00 PM »

Agree with all senate ratings except Kansas
Logged
KCDem
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,928


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2014, 07:24:54 PM »

JUNK PREDICTION!
Logged
Lief 🗽
Lief
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,973


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2014, 07:32:36 PM »

Sounds reasonable.
Logged
Recalcuate
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 444


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2014, 07:37:04 PM »

This has been my prediction for a few days now. 

Mine as well. KS is a pure tossup at this point, but R+7, R+8 is probably the most likely of all the probabilities.
Logged
"'Oeps!' De blunders van Rick Perry Indicted"
DarthNader
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 483


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2014, 07:40:14 PM »


Junk toupee!

Logged
Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas
Ray Goldfield
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,903


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2014, 07:52:26 PM »

I agree with all but Alaska. Begich's ground game seems to be stronger and Alaska voters are hard to predict. I think it's R+7 when all is said and done, whether Orman or Roberts wins.
Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 89,058
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2014, 08:06:05 PM »


AK and La or Ga our best bet, gop net 5
Logged
Badger
badger
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 40,364
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2014, 08:16:23 PM »

I agree with all but Alaska. Begich's ground game seems to be stronger and Alaska voters are hard to predict. I think it's R+7 when all is said and done, whether Orman or Roberts wins.

Assuming Orman doesn't weasel out of his "caucus with the majority" pledge and caucus with the Dems anyway. Sure he'll be castigated for it, but 6 years is a long time for voters to forgive and forget, and he stands a much better chance winning re-election in KS even as a Dem than he would surviving a GOP primary.
Logged
SWE
SomebodyWhoExists
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,334
United States


P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2014, 08:18:11 PM »

I agree with all but Alaska. Begich's ground game seems to be stronger and Alaska voters are hard to predict. I think it's R+7 when all is said and done, whether Orman or Roberts wins.

Assuming Orman doesn't weasel out of his "caucus with the majority" pledge and caucus with the Dems anyway. Sure he'll be castigated for it, but 6 years is a long time for voters to forgive and forget, and he stands a much better chance winning re-election in KS even as a Dem than he would surviving a GOP primary.
An independent wouldn't run in a GOP primary
Logged
7,052,770
Harry
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 35,502
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2014, 08:26:37 PM »

I agree with all but Alaska. Begich's ground game seems to be stronger and Alaska voters are hard to predict. I think it's R+7 when all is said and done, whether Orman or Roberts wins.

Assuming Orman doesn't weasel out of his "caucus with the majority" pledge and caucus with the Dems anyway. Sure he'll be castigated for it, but 6 years is a long time for voters to forgive and forget, and he stands a much better chance winning re-election in KS even as a Dem than he would surviving a GOP primary.

Plus if it's 51-48 R, he may go ahead and caucus with the Dems so he doesn't have to flip in 2016, which would just be awkward.
Logged
Badger
badger
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 40,364
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2014, 08:39:04 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2014, 08:41:49 PM by Badger »

I agree with all but Alaska. Begich's ground game seems to be stronger and Alaska voters are hard to predict. I think it's R+7 when all is said and done, whether Orman or Roberts wins.

Assuming Orman doesn't weasel out of his "caucus with the majority" pledge and caucus with the Dems anyway. Sure he'll be castigated for it, but 6 years is a long time for voters to forgive and forget, and he stands a much better chance winning re-election in KS even as a Dem than he would surviving a GOP primary.
An independent wouldn't run in a GOP primary

Well, obviously if he chooses this route he'll formally join the GOP at some point. I can't see him successfully running for re-election as an independent after caucusing with the Republicans. This is KS, not New England.
Logged
Badger
badger
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 40,364
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2014, 08:41:13 PM »

I agree with all but Alaska. Begich's ground game seems to be stronger and Alaska voters are hard to predict. I think it's R+7 when all is said and done, whether Orman or Roberts wins.

Assuming Orman doesn't weasel out of his "caucus with the majority" pledge and caucus with the Dems anyway. Sure he'll be castigated for it, but 6 years is a long time for voters to forgive and forget, and he stands a much better chance winning re-election in KS even as a Dem than he would surviving a GOP primary.

Plus if it's 51-48 R, he may go ahead and caucus with the Dems so he doesn't have to flip in 2016, which would just be awkward.

Quite possible I agree. But he may use the likely Democratic gains in 2016 to "keep his word to Kansas and caucus with the majority" and caucus with the Democrats like he obviously wants. Then he'll hope the GOP doesn't win back the Senate in 2018. Tongue
Logged
Maxwell
mah519
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,459
Germany


Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.96

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2014, 08:58:35 PM »

Why would Orman caucus with the Republicans ever though? They would have him in a closet and wouldn't give him any seats on committees. All they would try to do is make him unelectable when he tries to run for re-election. Democrats would give him the world and then some. There's no comparison that he would "do more" for Kansas as a Democrat.

There is exactly a 0% chance he caucuses with the Republicans.
Logged
Lief 🗽
Lief
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,973


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2014, 09:10:49 PM »

I agree with Maxwell completely.

Either way, he's a one-term senator. At least as a Democrat he would have some power and wouldn't be completely hated.
Logged
KingSweden
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,227
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2014, 09:11:47 PM »

I remain skeptical that the R's hit their best total since 1994 (or if they get above 8, 1980) with their own brand in the toilet. R+7 I imagine is the ceiling when all is said and done.
Logged
Badger
badger
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 40,364
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2014, 10:23:33 PM »

I agree with Maxwell completely.

Either way, he's a one-term senator. At least as a Democrat he would have some power and wouldn't be completely hated.

You guys might be right. It wouldn't shock me. I'm just saying there's a chance that McConnell and his caucus try to make nice with Orman to keep him on the team as a buffer against likely losses in 16. Orman likewise can "keep to his word" to his constituents and spend the next 6 years repairing bridges with the KS GOP to overcome a primary challenge (which he may well decide is even less of a threat than running for re-election as a Democrat).

Again, it wouldn't shock me if he caucuses with the Democrats, majority or not, I'm just saying the chance of him sticking with the GOP majority isn't zero (but yeah, probably less than 50/50).
Logged
ElectionsGuy
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 21,102
United States


Political Matrix
E: 7.10, S: -7.65

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2014, 05:12:33 AM »

I agree with all except Kansas. There's a slight tilt toward Orman in the polls, but this race has been the hardest to call all cycle.
Logged
Bigby
Mod_Libertarian_GOPer
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,164
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: 3.74

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2014, 05:22:17 AM »

I'd put Georgia as "Leans/Likely Runoff" and I'd put Kansas as "Leans Independent." Other than that and maybe putting Alaska as "Unknown," this sounds reasonable.
Logged
Fmr President & Senator Polnut
polnut
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,489
Australia


Political Matrix
E: -2.71, S: -5.22

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2014, 06:00:25 AM »

Maybe just create "Alaska" as a new category as short-hand for "NFI"
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.249 seconds with 12 queries.