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The Vorlon
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« on: October 06, 2004, 07:04:10 PM »
« edited: October 06, 2004, 07:07:07 PM by The Vorlon »

Bush is up 1% or so in Missouri, Tennessee and by 6% in West Virginia.

Kerry leads in all other states.

These results presented without comment for your view pleasure Smiley

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-battleground04-1006print.html

ARKANSAS 

Bush: 46.7%
Kerry: 46.9%
Nader: .07%

Wow - Kerry should fire those crackheads he has polling for him and invest in this state - why did Kerry pull out when he is actually ahead...?

FLORIDA

Bush: 49.1%
Kerry: 49.5%
Nader: 0.5%

IOWA 

Bush: 44.5%
Kerry: 51.1%
Nader: 0.2%

MICHIGAN 

Bush: 44.4%
kerry: 54.1%
Nader: 0.3% 

MINNESOTA 

Bush: 44.1%
Kerry: 52.4%
Nader: 1.7% 

MISSOURI 

Bush: 49.8%
Kerry: 47.6%
Nader: 1.3%
 
NEVADA 

Bush: 47.1%
Kerry: 48.1%
Nader: 0.9%

NEW HAMPSHIRE 

Bush: 43.9%
Kerry: 50.5%
Nader: 1.7%

NEW MEXICO 

Bush: 42.5%
Kerry: 53.9%
Nader: 1.7%

OHIO 

Bush: 48.8%
Kerry: 49.1%
Nader: 0.4%

OREGON 

Bush: 43.7%
Kerry: 53.8%
Nader: 1.2%
 
PENNSYLVANIA 

Bush: 46.4%
Kerry: 51.8%
Nader: 0.2%

TENNESSEE 

Bush: 48.7%
Kerry: 47.8%
Nader: 0.0%

WASHINGTON 

Bush: 43.8%
Kerry: 53.7%

WEST VIRGINIA 

Bush: 50.1%
Kerry: 44.0%
Nader: 0.7%

WISCONSIN 

Bush: 48.1%
Kerry: 50.6%
Nader: 0.1%

 


 
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2004, 07:08:22 PM »

Dead heat in Tennessee.  I've been worried sick about that state. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2004, 07:09:02 PM »

Amazing and Bush leads +3 nationwide according to same pollster 10/1-10/3.

He must have won Texas +99% in that poll
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2004, 07:14:39 PM »

Apparently Bush only received 20% of the vote outside the South.  (Except for Tennessee of course).
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2004, 07:17:24 PM »
« Edited: October 06, 2004, 07:38:13 PM by The Vorlon »

Amazing and Bush leads +3 nationwide according to same pollster 10/1-10/3.

He must have won Texas +99% in that poll

There has been some suggestion that Zogby's internet polls may not be methodologically sound.

No... really.....
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2004, 07:30:06 PM »

Amazing and Bush leads +3 nationwide according to same pollster 10/1-10/3.

He must have won Texas +99% in that poll

These has been some suggestion that Zogby's internet polls may not be methodologically sound.

No... really.....

I know, just being snide.  These numbers are rather unusual.  I believe Kerry pulled resources out of Missouri.  This would indicate a hugh electoral victory for Kerry which nobody else is showing at this point.  I know everybody says we will have a close election.  I would not be surprised to see the electoral college break strongly for 1 candidate on another but in the last 10 days.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2004, 08:07:46 PM »

Those idiots at Survey USA just released a poll showing Bush +19 in Tennessee.  Obviously, they didn't know to use the internet.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2004, 08:13:54 PM »

Those idiots at Survey USA just released a poll showing Bush +19 in Tennessee.  Obviously, they didn't know to use the internet.

It was actually only 14%, I am sure that Mason-Dixon with Bush up 16% was also just junk too..

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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2004, 08:15:54 PM »

Actually, if you look on their site, they just released 4 new state polls.
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2004, 08:16:30 PM »

Actually, if you look on their site, they just released 4 new state polls.

Thanks!
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2004, 08:47:54 PM »

At this point, a poll that does not correctly list the candidates on the ballot in the state being polled may correctly be assumed to be incompetent or purchased, no further questions asked.

In particular, listing one of the two left wing third party candidates, but not the right wing or the libertarian candidate, is likely to skew the ballot against Kerry.
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2004, 08:53:38 PM »


HAHAHAHAHA

Thanks for the evening laugh, Vorlon.  Smiley  I can go to bed on a positive note now.  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2004, 09:28:41 PM »

LOL...like said in the SurveyUSA thread:

Zogby has spoken! All other polls are wrong!!!
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2004, 11:13:01 PM »

Oy...throw in the towel now, gents.  Zogby says it's over.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2004, 07:10:14 AM »


I had nightmares last night while I was sleeping.  Images of Zogby online polls were chasing me down the street, trying to get me to choose a side.  I kept screaming "I'm independent, I'm independent," but they wouldn't listen.  Fortunately I stumbled down the alley belonging to the LA Times polls, where Zogby and the LA Times began to fight over polling turf.  I was able to slip away.

WHEW!  Last time I go to bed like that.  hehehe . . . maybe I should turn on HGTV or something before going to sleep.  Cheesy  Dahlia's and Salvia's would never attack me in such a fashion.  hahaha
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2004, 09:43:10 AM »

I assume that Zogby’s phone polls are more accurate than his internet polls.
There is approximately 2% difference.
What could be the reason?

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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2004, 09:44:58 AM »

I assume that Zogby’s phone polls are more accurate than his internet polls.
There is approximately 2% difference.
What could be the reason?



I assume my dog eating biscuits is more accurate than Zogby Internet polls.
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2004, 09:48:26 AM »

Same reason why Rasmussen polls fluctuate on a daily basis.  It all depends on who is the person polled.  I could randomly choose 90% of a polling population who believes in life on Mars if I got lucky enough.

There is no science behind polling (sorry Vorlon).  It's merely a matter of random sampling, and therefore, your results will vary each time.  All the pollster can do is ask the right questions to obtain a fair assessment of the "pulse" of the population.


(And yes, I will always laugh at Zogby, even if by some miracle he changes his methodology to become more like Mason Dixon.)
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2004, 09:55:58 AM »

Same reason why Rasmussen polls fluctuate on a daily basis.  

The Rasmussen polls are very good in showing the trend.

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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2004, 10:05:57 AM »


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Sorry Shira, but even coming from my Engineering background, where we had to do data polling and probability analysis, there is less science and more "luck/chance" behind polling.  Like I said, I could do a poll and come up with 90% of the population believing there is life on Mars, and that would be by random sampling.  The next day, it could only be 5%.
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