For those of you who believe TX will stay a Republican state in the long term, why? (user search)
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Samof94
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« on: March 22, 2024, 08:16:59 AM »

This is a sentiment I've often seen on this forum and online, and I haven't gotten a very satisfying answer.

The main argument I see is that the GOP will continue to gain in rural TX and with Hispanics. The issue with this argument is that this is literally what happened in 2020 but it didn't stop TX from shifting and trending left. And infact many of the massive R swings we saw with Hispanics in places like South Texas are going to be hard to replicate cycle after cycle because you'll very quickly reach a ceiling.

The reality is over 2/3rds of Texans live in one of the 4 main metro areas (Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio) all of which have had pretty clear and consistent leftwards shifts for the past 2 decades; even if the GOP gains more ground elsewhere these places will always win out. Any path to keeping the state GOP leaning in the long run has to run through the GOP holding their ground in these metro areas.

The GOP almost achieved this in Houston metro in 2020 thanks to massive gains with urban Hispanics and some other ethnic minorities in places like Alief, but even then Harris County and Houston metro as a whole still swung left.

Another problem for the GOP is just growth. The fastest growing area of the state is metro Austin which is also the most liberal, and only getting bluer by the cycle; heck Beto 2022 outran Biden 2020 in Travis and Hays Counties! In the other 3 major metros, there is a strong correlation between the fastest growing suburbs and strongest democratic shifts. On the flip side, most of the deepest red rural Texas Counties are stagnant or outright shrinking.

So why is the GOP suddenly going to be able to make the state stall out? Massive and consistent gains with non-white voters? Transplants becoming more R-favorable? They manage to stop the bleeding with suburbanites post Trump? Genuinely curious.

What made Florida able to do this was a set of factors that differ from Texas. Florida appeals more to both the elderly and Northeastern conservatives.  Also, Florida marketed itself in a Covid context somewhat differently.
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Samof94
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2024, 06:17:46 AM »

Personally, I think the state will become closer because of trends and growth

But I don't think Democrats will win in 2024 or 2028.

The sheer gap is just too much. How do you make up 630,000 votes? Trump won Tennessee by 700,000 votes. No one is realistically trying to flip that state despite Nashville growing so fast

TX has like 30 million people; a 600k gap isn’t that big when you take in context how large the state is. By your logic Trump only won WY by only just over 100k in 2020 so both sides should be taking it seriously.

Between 2016 and 2020 alone, Biden increased his raw vote out of Dallas and Travis counties by ~200k votes.
NH is a small state in comparison and a few thousand votes to back W was a big deal back then.
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