If IQ group differences will be proven to be genetic, how'd you feel about AA?

[Pennsylvania Deplorable]

I'm confused. How is being poor genetic

I meant that having a low IQ is genetic.

Basically, right now, one can argue in favor of affirmative action on either economic or racial grounds by arguing that poor people/Blacks/Hispanics underperform on academic tests due to their poverty. However, if we will find out that the reason for this underperformance is genetic (just like Asian and Ashkenazi Jewish overperformance on academic/IQ tests could be genetic), then this argument in favor of affirmative action gets destroyed.

I think the argument you're making is absurd and borderline racist.

So, are the people who argue that the higher-than-average Ashkenazi Jewish average IQ might have a genetic basis to it racist? :

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-jewish-iq18-2009apr18-story.html

Also, this article might be both interesting and useful for you:

http://akarlin.com/2012/04/race-denial-vs-racism-a-false-dichotomy/

Indeed, as the article above states, speculating that group differences in IQ might have a genetic basis to them and supporting a generous welfare state is much more humane than, say, believing that Blacks and Hispanics don't perform as well on academic tests because they don't try hard enough and opposing a generous social safety net is.

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You have to explain why exactly affluent Blacks underperform poor Whites--let alone wealthy Whites:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/1995-SAT-Income2.png

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True, IQ isn't everything. However, if you have a better test for intelligence, please let me know.

It's also worth noting that the income gap is largely a function of high IQ people on average making more money. Since IQ is hereditary, it makes sense that children born to rich parents (who are on average more intelligent) will score better themselves. There are situations in which nurture can trump nature (such as childhood malnutrition), but overall the data points towards heritability being the primary determinant. One curious fact is that whites outperform Asians on the SAT in Hawaii, which may suggest that the mean with Asians in America has been brought up by American corporations cherry-picking the best and brightest of Asia. This makes even more sense when one sees that there is very little difference between IQ scores of East Asians in Asia and in America, but a considerable gap exists between South Asia and South Asians in America.

This really shouldn't be controversial. The notion that the brain, the single most complex organ int he body, would miraculously remain unaffected by tens of thousands of years of evolution in vastly different environments defies reason.

Scientists have found evidence of hereditary intelligence in chimpanzees. https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/40459/title/Inherited-Intelligence/

Truly, denying it for humans is secular creationism. Egalitarianism is taking on a religious quality in its fight against science. A few liberal intellectuals have had the courage to stand up to this.
More recently, Sam Harris acknowledged racial differences in IQ, albeit reluctantly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGp06vMPERE

UCLA (far from the bastion of alt-right research) has found that genes determine intelligence. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/more-proof-that-intelligence-is-85134

Study finds that racial differences in incarceration rate can largely be explained by histories of violent behavior and IQ scores, not by discrimination in the justice system. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886913000470

Research shows a strong link between IQ of children and their future earnings as adults. http://www.eugenics.net/papers/murray.html

Genes may influence other factors related to academic success as well. http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/10/genes-dont-just-influence-your-iq-they-determine-how-well-you-do-school

I'd also add that in my anecdotal experience, there was an obvious trend in which siblings of students int he gifted program were usually also in it. Furthermore, when I got the highest SAT and ACT scores in my school, nobody was surprised because implicitly we all know individuals have different levels of raw intelligence. There's no logical reason to think groups wouldn't.

Here's a video calmly explaining racial differences in IQ and debunking common arguments against it. It has a page of citations at the end. https://www.bitchute.com/video/7YB1g7v7qUOw/
Not content to accept it from a white guy? Here's an article from a mixed race man doing much the same thing. https://jaymans.wordpress.com/jaymans-race-inheritance-and-iq-f-a-q-f-r-b/

"There is no truth existing which I fear, or would wish unknown to the world." - Thomas Jefferson

[Pennsylvania Deplorable]

I'm confused. How is being poor genetic

I meant that having a low IQ is genetic.

Basically, right now, one can argue in favor of affirmative action on either economic or racial grounds by arguing that poor people/Blacks/Hispanics underperform on academic tests due to their poverty. However, if we will find out that the reason for this underperformance is genetic (just like Asian and Ashkenazi Jewish overperformance on academic/IQ tests could be genetic), then this argument in favor of affirmative action gets destroyed.

I think the argument you're making is absurd and borderline racist.

So, are the people who argue that the higher-than-average Ashkenazi Jewish average IQ might have a genetic basis to it racist? :

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-jewish-iq18-2009apr18-story.html

Also, this article might be both interesting and useful for you:

http://akarlin.com/2012/04/race-denial-vs-racism-a-false-dichotomy/

Indeed, as the article above states, speculating that group differences in IQ might have a genetic basis to them and supporting a generous welfare state is much more humane than, say, believing that Blacks and Hispanics don't perform as well on academic tests because they don't try hard enough and opposing a generous social safety net is.

You must be logged in to read this quote.

You have to explain why exactly affluent Blacks underperform poor Whites--let alone wealthy Whites:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/1995-SAT-Income2.png

You must be logged in to read this quote.

True, IQ isn't everything. However, if you have a better test for intelligence, please let me know.

It's also worth noting that the income gap is largely a function of high IQ people on average making more money. Since IQ is hereditary, it makes sense that children born to rich parents (who are on average more intelligent) will score better themselves. There are situations in which nurture can trump nature (such as childhood malnutrition), but overall the data points towards heritability being the primary determinant. One curious fact is that whites outperform Asians on the SAT in Hawaii, which may suggest that the mean with Asians in America has been brought up by American corporations cherry-picking the best and brightest of Asia. This makes even more sense when one sees that there is very little difference between IQ scores of East Asians in Asia and in America, but a considerable gap exists between South Asia and South Asians in America.

This really shouldn't be controversial. The notion that the brain, the single most complex organ int he body, would miraculously remain unaffected by tens of thousands of years of evolution in vastly different environments defies reason.

Scientists have found evidence of hereditary intelligence in chimpanzees. https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/40459/title/Inherited-Intelligence/

Truly, denying it for humans is secular creationism. Egalitarianism is taking on a religious quality in its fight against science. A few liberal intellectuals have had the courage to stand up to this.
More recently, Sam Harris acknowledged racial differences in IQ, albeit reluctantly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGp06vMPERE

UCLA (far from the bastion of alt-right research) has found that genes determine intelligence. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/more-proof-that-intelligence-is-85134

Study finds that racial differences in incarceration rate can largely be explained by histories of violent behavior and IQ scores, not by discrimination in the justice system. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886913000470

Research shows a strong link between IQ of children and their future earnings as adults. http://www.eugenics.net/papers/murray.html

Genes may influence other factors related to academic success as well. http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/10/genes-dont-just-influence-your-iq-they-determine-how-well-you-do-school

I'd also add that in my anecdotal experience, there was an obvious trend in which siblings of students int he gifted program were usually also in it. Furthermore, when I got the highest SAT and ACT scores in my school, nobody was surprised because implicitly we all know individuals have different levels of raw intelligence. There's no logical reason to think groups wouldn't.

Here's a video calmly explaining racial differences in IQ and debunking common arguments against it. It has a page of citations at the end. https://www.bitchute.com/video/7YB1g7v7qUOw/
Not content to accept it from a white guy? Here's an article from a mixed race man doing much the same thing. https://jaymans.wordpress.com/jaymans-race-inheritance-and-iq-f-a-q-f-r-b/

"There is no truth existing which I fear, or would wish unknown to the world." - Thomas Jefferson

Children of stupid people aren't inherently stupid. Maybe they are because they were raised by stupid people, but if they are adopted at birth there's no guarantee they'll be just as dumb as their biological parents. It's all a product of environment. Referring to the bolded point, it's likely because the environment they were raised in gave them a better education than their peers, not because their brain is genetically amazing.

I literally linked multiple studies showing that intelligence is hereditary. It is genetic and that is a fact. All the data backs this assertion. Calling it environmental has been extensively debunked because there is no correlation between the IQ and standardized test scores of adoptive siblings, whereas there is a correlation for siblings (especially identical twins) reared apart. Pretending it's all environmental is inexcusable when there is so much evidence to the contrary and shows a lack of understanding (or willful denial) of evolution.