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« on: January 23, 2022, 09:46:53 PM »

Biden should not do this. The United States does not need to have its military resources drawn into yet another theater of the world.

I mean the Cold War kinda showed letting Russia take Eastern Europe could prove to be an existential threat to the US and while the current Russian Government isnt as evil as the USSR one was, they are still very bad.



I would say Putin's regime is probably similar to Gorbachev's in term of how overall abusive it is. Brezhnev? Not so much. 
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2022, 08:59:51 AM »

This is a bad situation but I think the President is taking the best course of action possible, at least as far as I am aware.
This action will result in the downfall of Putin’s brutal regime, so I agree with it 100%. I am pretty sure we will end up droning Putin in the end.

That would be bad ass.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2022, 11:13:43 AM »

Biden is about to drag us into the 3rd World War and red avatars talking about technicalities lmao
Putin is a genocidal murderer who needs to go. The Biden Administration needs to immediately launch military strikes against Russia to remove the Putin regime from power.

Just how, exactly, is this course of action in the best interest of the United States of America and its citizens?

We don’t need war for war’s sake but we can’t just have these hordes of  bloodthirsty reprobates roaming the Earth destroying everyone in their path. If Putin wins, EVERYONE loses.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2022, 02:49:52 PM »

Jesus

Ya'll are so wrong

No, WW3 isn't happening

No, there isn't going to be a shooting war

Putin is desperate to maintain power. He trying his best to make a failing country remain a global power. For years, he could  with the US because of whatever blackmail he had on Trump. Now he needs something else to distract the Russian people.

Him forcing the US to not let Ukraine in NATO is that distraction. I don't even think Putin wants to invade, the sanctions will destroy the Russian economy further.

If Putin does invade, how does he expect to occupy a nation of 40 million? He'll just invade the south eastern part to connect with Crimeria

And then we can still make it hell for him to do so. If he does something that exposes himself at all, it should be chomped at immediately.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2022, 02:52:43 PM »




LOL, Calling him Putinist is as brain-dead as calling him Khomeinist.

He has been consistently anti-war/anti-interventionist, regardless who is in the WH, which is great.




It's called Chicken Dovery. Especially when you go and defend the ideology of the enemy like he did in Budapest the other day.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2022, 03:22:53 PM »




LOL, Calling him Putinist is as brain-dead as calling him Khomeinist.

He has been consistently anti-war/anti-interventionist, regardless who is in the WH, which is great.




It's called Chicken Dovery. Especially when you go and defend the ideology of the enemy like he did in Budapest the other day.


Do you mean, Hungary is the enemy of US Huh

No but Putinism is.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2022, 08:54:45 AM »




LOL, Calling him Putinist is as brain-dead as calling him Khomeinist.

He has been consistently anti-war/anti-interventionist, regardless who is in the WH, which is great.




It's called Chicken Dovery. Especially when you go and defend the ideology of the enemy like he did in Budapest the other day.


Do you mean, Hungary is the enemy of US Huh

No but Putinism is.

Putinism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putinism

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Putin’s personality cult,[13] through glorification in the media, the image of a "national hero",[14]

Obama, Trump. Biden is more restrained and unlike his 2 predecessors does not go out in public and have his supporters praise him as though he were God.

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strong presidential power,[15] strengthened even in comparison with Yeltsin times,[16]

pretty much every president post-Clinton

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strong state control over property,[15]

that's a Democratic Party central belief amongst major wings of the party, Trump probably as well

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elements of nepotism (cooperative “Ozero”),

Kennedys, Bushes, Clintons, Trump

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reliance on siloviki (people from several dozen security agencies, many of whom worked with Putin before he came to power),

Well that's at least Russia only. So one point.

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selective application of justice,[17][18] subjectively selective application of the law (“Everything is for the friends, the law is for the enemies”),[19]

Application of justice in the U.S. is politically influenced. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans believe in applying the law equally to everyone. And if you're a third party group they will join up to quash and destroy you disallowing you from being on the ballot, which closely matches what happens in Russia as well.

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relatively liberal but non-transparent financial and tax policies,[2]

On financial policies being incredibly opaque, us and all of the West have been there for 15 years.

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“manual control” mode:[20][21][22] a weak technical government that does not have any political weight, with real control of the country from Presidential Administration,[20]

Holy sh**t I could not think of a better description of how weak modern-day Congress is and both parties tell their party's presidents "use executive orders".

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utmost secrecy of power and backstage making of key decisions,[20]

"The White House has told all their agencies to look into their concerns with cryptocurrencies for purposes of regulation, but will not comment publicly." Not a crypto guy, just calling them out.

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the authorities' dislike of freedom to express their opinion, censorship,[23]

Trump, and Biden as well.

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strategic relations with The Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church, they say, the property interests of the church[24] and a policy of promoting clericalization of society.[25][26]

Not really done here at least. So yay, we're now 2 bullet points better!

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In the international arena, Putinism is characterized by nostalgia for Soviet times and a desire to regain the situation before 1989 when the Soviet Union competed on a strong footing with United States in international affairs. Energy is used as an instrument of international politics (so-called “pipeline diplomacy”).[27]

that's pretty much every president on from Bush Jr. has done this nostalgia thing

Make America Great Again, and then Build Back Better:

Build = Make
Back = Again
Better = Great

frankly I wish we had someone as president strong at international affairs, the last good foreign policy president was George H.W. Bush, Clinton was at best passable, and Bush Jr., Obama, Trump, and Biden so far have been varying degrees of incompetent to absolute moron

This sounds a lot more like Trump. You could argue that Biden is the least Putinist president in modern times with your criteria.
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