Should prostitution be legalized?

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Legal, people who want it to be illegal ultimately are just prudes trying to impose their morality on everybody else.

As with illicit drugs, the evidence is overwhelming that the most major harms from prostitution derive from it being illegal.

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I don't really understand what the hang up is about prostitution.  A lot of this seems to come from the idea that 'good women' don't have sex.  I agree that nobody should be forced into prostitution, but in terms of physical labor, I don't think sex is all that much different than hard physical labor, and I don't see anybody pushing for banning digging ditches.

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I don't really understand what the hang up is about prostitution.  A lot of this seems to come from the idea that 'good women' don't have sex.  I agree that nobody should be forced into prostitution, but in terms of physical labor, I don't think sex is all that much different than hard physical labor, and I don't see anybody pushing for banning digging ditches.

What?  Digging ditches wouldn't directly enable an underground human trafficking world; I do not see how those are remotely the same.  To act like opposition to the legalization of prostitution must hinge on some type of paternal sexism seems quite far-fetched.

I suspect you don't know much of anything about real human trafficking.

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I don't really understand what the hang up is about prostitution.  A lot of this seems to come from the idea that 'good women' don't have sex.  I agree that nobody should be forced into prostitution, but in terms of physical labor, I don't think sex is all that much different than hard physical labor, and I don't see anybody pushing for banning digging ditches.

What?  Digging ditches wouldn't directly enable an underground human trafficking world; I do not see how those are remotely the same.  To act like opposition to the legalization of prostitution must hinge on some type of paternal sexism seems quite far-fetched.

The types who would render sex a simple commodity, equivalent to labor, are beyond description. If this becomes something that cannot only be handed out at various times based on indeigejce, but as well something that can be owed or confiscated. This is a bad thing.

There are a number of normative statements here.  The correct response to a normative statement is: why?

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I don't really understand what the hang up is about prostitution.  A lot of this seems to come from the idea that 'good women' don't have sex.  I agree that nobody should be forced into prostitution, but in terms of physical labor, I don't think sex is all that much different than hard physical labor, and I don't see anybody pushing for banning digging ditches.

What?  Digging ditches wouldn't directly enable an underground human trafficking world; I do not see how those are remotely the same.  To act like opposition to the legalization of prostitution must hinge on some type of paternal sexism seems quite far-fetched.

The types who would render sex a simple commodity, equivalent to labor, are beyond description. If this becomes something that cannot only be handed out at various times based on indeigejce, but as well something that can be owed or confiscated. This is a bad thing.

There are a number of normative statements here.  The correct response to a normative statement is: why?

Courts can render community service or fines as a means of restorative justice. Business arrangements mandate certain practices in response to payment, and vice versa. That is because labor and money are seen as coherent and discrete units to be exacted from people upon arrangement. Beyond strict coercion, indigence can force people into a variety of professions. Given the current ideological regime surrounding sex, rendering it in this fashion is unacceptable. Prior moral regimes also would not have condoned this. Forcing someone to grab overtime when they don't want to is very obviously very different from rape; sex as a purely economic occurrence undermines this distinction.

My point is simply that some people do, in fact, regard sex as no different than physical labor, and in a free society, there needs to be significant evident harm to prevent these people from being able to buy and sell sex. Although that may look like a normative statement as well, it is, in fact, a positive statement, as that is the general definition of a 'free society.'

Since I'm not referring to it being unregulated, I regard all of your concerns as red herrings.

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I don't think sex is all that much different than hard physical labor

No one ever got pregnant or caught gonnorhea digging a ditch.

I mentioned ditch digging as an example.  Coalworker's pneumoconiosis (CWP): also known as black lung disease or black lung, is caused by long-term exposure to coal dust.

In 2013 CWP resulted in 25,000 deaths down from 29,000 deaths in 1990

Should it be illegal for people to be coalworkers?  Should it be illegal for people to hire coalworkers?

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I have to say, not seeing a distinction between sex and hard physical labor is just screaming "I've never done either!"

True!

However, that's not to say that there aren't people who have engaged in both who do see them as similar.