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Landslide Lyndon
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« Reply #525 on: March 19, 2011, 12:51:12 PM »

Could we see an intervention by the Egyptian army too? They aren't too fond of Qaddafi and their superiority could allow them to overrun any opposition without significant casualties.
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« Reply #526 on: March 19, 2011, 12:59:25 PM »

Here we go again - Imperialist Europeans come to Africa and start slaughtering the natives. It is appalling.

Yes, because coalition members Morocco, UAE, Qatar, and Jordan are so white Imperialists.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #527 on: March 19, 2011, 01:01:10 PM »

Could we see an intervention by the Egyptian army too? They aren't too fond of Qaddafi and their superiority could allow them to overrun any opposition without significant casualties.

Doubt it, actually.

Beside their not easy home situation which makes a foreign intervention hazardous (as a matter of fact that referendum doesn't seem to be too consensual so far), they were not present in the Parisian summit, Arab countries that were present were:

Qatar
Iraq
UAE
Jordan
Morocco (glad to see them here)

All represented by their Foreign Affairs Minister (for Qatar the FAM is also the PM). In the preceding day I head that Egypt would eventually open its airspace to planes from the Gulf.

Also, AU who wasn't present in Paris today and opposed military intervention would be constituting a group of contact to take contact with Gaddafi to try to convince him to stop to use his army against civilians.

Oh, about the deployment of French forces, the Charles de Gaulle will be equipped of Rafales and modernized Super-Etendards, it will come with 2 more frigates, the Dupleix and the Aconit, and with the refueling Tanker Meuse.
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« Reply #528 on: March 19, 2011, 01:36:41 PM »

Oh, and let's look how this Gaddafi is kinky, he organized a 'open doors day' in his bunker. [/human shield]

Also, Haper said a maritime blockade was taking place.

Chavez says a military operation is 'irresponsible'.
Russia 'regrets' it.
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« Reply #529 on: March 19, 2011, 01:44:25 PM »

More about 'the bunker', according to a guy who came to speak on France24, all big officials would be in it, forbidden to go out, families threatened.

Also, about the possibilities of retaliation of Gaddafi's forces, what we would control the less would be his anti-aircraft defenses, but people seem to be rather optimistic to deal with that though. He would also have about 30 Scuds, with which he could for example touch Italy, but according to some people on forums the kind of Scuds he has wouldn't be able to do huge damages. I guess Italy is aware of it and would prepare itself in consequence.
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« Reply #530 on: March 19, 2011, 01:45:15 PM »

Here we go again - Imperialist Europeans come to Africa and start slaughtering the natives. It is appalling.

Yes, because coalition members Morocco, UAE, Qatar, and Jordan are so white Imperialists.  Roll Eyes

Lackeys, and just cover anyway. 
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« Reply #531 on: March 19, 2011, 01:46:37 PM »

Gaddafi could speak soon.
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« Reply #532 on: March 19, 2011, 01:53:41 PM »

Here we go again - Imperialist Europeans come to Africa and start slaughtering the natives. It is appalling.

Yes, because coalition members Morocco, UAE, Qatar, and Jordan are so white Imperialists.  Roll Eyes

Lackeys, and just cover anyway. 

Now, THAT, is what I would call a colonialist assumption.
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« Reply #533 on: March 19, 2011, 01:58:10 PM »

Chavez says a military operation is 'irresponsible'.
Russia 'regrets' it.

Roll Eyes
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« Reply #534 on: March 19, 2011, 02:27:29 PM »

US Tomahawk in the air now, presumably aimed at AA defenses.
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« Reply #535 on: March 19, 2011, 02:30:56 PM »

Here we go again - Imperialist Europeans come to Africa and start slaughtering the natives. It is appalling.

Yes, because coalition members Morocco, UAE, Qatar, and Jordan are so white Imperialists.  Roll Eyes

The UAE? Here I was thinking that this operation was a good thing...
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« Reply #536 on: March 19, 2011, 02:40:56 PM »

According to MSNBC: "U.S. has launched military strikes inside Libya - NBC"
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« Reply #537 on: March 19, 2011, 02:47:37 PM »

Libya less much less now like what was in Egypt or Tunisia: a real popular uprising, and more and more appears to be a tribal war.

And that's why I'd extremely cautious with siding solely with the opposition.

And, yes, idiot Sarkozy is already abusing resolution mandate in order to appear less pathetic.
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« Reply #538 on: March 19, 2011, 02:48:41 PM »

According to MSNBC: "U.S. has launched military strikes inside Libya - NBC"

Beet you by 13 minutes.  Smiley

US Tomahawk in the air now, presumably aimed at AA defenses.
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« Reply #539 on: March 19, 2011, 02:57:26 PM »

It's interesting how many civilian casualties they will be. They tend to be a lot in such humanitarian operations.
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« Reply #540 on: March 19, 2011, 02:59:41 PM »

According to MSNBC: "U.S. has launched military strikes inside Libya - NBC"

Beet you by 13 minutes.  Smiley

US Tomahawk in the air now, presumably aimed at AA defenses.

Oops... didn't see your post there.
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« Reply #541 on: March 19, 2011, 03:12:55 PM »

Operation Odyssey Dawn.


Sounds kinda kinky.

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« Reply #542 on: March 19, 2011, 03:18:55 PM »

Sounds like a randomised call sign to me.

Thanks for letting us know.
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« Reply #543 on: March 19, 2011, 03:20:14 PM »

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4044611,00.html

If true, a very foolish beginning to a dubious operation.
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« Reply #544 on: March 19, 2011, 03:21:40 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2011, 03:23:52 PM by MK ULTRA II (No Celebration) »



It's Libyan TV though, how much of it can we actually believe?


Sounds like a randomised call sign to me.

Thanks for letting us know.

No prob...
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« Reply #545 on: March 19, 2011, 03:30:38 PM »

Great job, injecting yourself into a Arab tribal war.
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« Reply #546 on: March 19, 2011, 03:32:41 PM »

Great job, injecting yourself into a Arab tribal war.
If it's not, there is a good chance it will become one now.
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« Reply #547 on: March 19, 2011, 03:35:28 PM »

It's interesting how many civilian casualties they will be. They tend to be a lot in such humanitarian operations.

And yet many, many times less than if Qaddafi succeeded in crushing the rebellion.
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« Reply #548 on: March 19, 2011, 03:44:29 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2011, 03:50:57 PM by opebo »

Chavez says a military operation is 'irresponsible'.
Russia 'regrets' it.

They're quite right - Russia should have vetoed it.

Great job, injecting yourself into a Arab tribal war.
If it's not, there is a good chance it will become one now.

Precisely.  They intervene, as they always intervene, using one tribe against another, to gain overall control of the colony.  Its the Hutus and the Tutsis all over again, and Paris, London and Brussels are to blame.

It's interesting how many civilian casualties they will be. They tend to be a lot in such humanitarian operations.

And yet many, many times less than if Qaddafi succeeded in crushing the rebellion.

Pshaw.  Gaddafi would have restored order, and the country would go back to its sleepy prosperity of the last 40 years.  Now with the Western powers using these people to fight each other, we'll have chaos and eternal misery, like in Iraq.

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« Reply #549 on: March 19, 2011, 03:59:35 PM »

It is interesting to note how excited yesterday's imperial superpowers are about this. A chance to flex their muscles and prove they're not irrelevant, I suppose?
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