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« on: May 23, 2023, 09:47:51 PM »

https://www.cato.org/blog/tennessee-leads-way-removing-barriers-foreign-doctors

We can definitely poach way more Canadian/UK doctors or even European doctors . All these countries have stringent standards for medical certification and pay their doctors a fraction of American salaries. People always blame hospital admin or insurance but at least some of America's inflated healthcare cost goes to the higher salaries for doctors and nurses.

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There is finally some good news on this front. Yesterday, Tennessee Governor Bill Lee signed HB 1312 into law. This new law grants provisional licenses to international medical graduates who have full licenses in good standing in other countries and pass the same standardized medical exams that U.S. medical graduates must pass. After two years of supervision by a Tennessee‐​licensed physician, they can receive unrestricted licenses.

Tennessee thus becomes the first state to break down barriers that prevent foreign doctors from helping address the worsening physician shortage in the United States. Yesterday the governor also signed into law a bill allowing medical school graduates who haven’t matched in residency programs to work as assistant physicians.
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2023, 12:55:49 PM »
« Edited: May 24, 2023, 03:46:46 PM by lfromnj »

https://www.statnews.com/2023/05/18/doctors-trained-outside-us-licensing-tennessee/

Here's a non CATO source. Not sure why no one is interested in this topic .
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2023, 01:23:51 PM »

They kind of have to
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2023, 01:43:23 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2023, 03:02:51 PM »

This is a preferable solution to healthcare provider shortages to increasing the on-paper supply of healthcare providers by broadening scope of practice for NPs and PAs, and having them do the work of MDs which they are not trained to do.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2023, 03:53:31 PM »

This is really just a way to deal with the healthcare worker shortage in Tennessee.

https://newschannel9.com/nashville-middle-tennessee-google-facebook-twitter-nurse-shortages-we-are-definitely-probably-at-a-point-of-calling-it-a-crisis

https://www.axios.com/local/nashville/2023/01/24/tennessee-elder-care-home-care-workers

https://www.newportplaintalk.com/news/state/article_cd23a92b-a655-5db9-8c5b-15dbf043b7c3.html

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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2024, 12:23:53 PM »

https://floridaphoenix.com/2024/01/12/some-foreign-trained-physicians-could-skip-residency-to-practice-medicine-in-florida/

Seems that FL is doing it as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Residency/comments/1c87rm8/what_is_the_point_of_acgme_accredited_residencies/

redditors malding over their cartel breaking.
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2024, 01:35:42 PM »

Foreign doctors should have been a bandaid while access to American medical education was improved. Instead we've done nothing but jack up tuition and create dire shortages everywhere. India apparently isn't pumping them out fast enough for us to access physicals and dental cleanings less than six months out. Maybe if medical school didn't cost as much as a house more Americans could be doctors.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2024, 02:46:24 PM »

Foreign doctors should have been a bandaid while access to American medical education was improved. Instead we've done nothing but jack up tuition and create dire shortages everywhere. India apparently isn't pumping them out fast enough for us to access physicals and dental cleanings less than six months out. Maybe if medical school didn't cost as much as a house more Americans could be doctors.

There's already restricted medical school slots and residency slots. The tuition cost isn't really a factor except for dropouts as most doctors easily pay it back.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2024, 02:55:27 PM »

Foreign doctors should have been a bandaid while access to American medical education was improved. Instead we've done nothing but jack up tuition and create dire shortages everywhere. India apparently isn't pumping them out fast enough for us to access physicals and dental cleanings less than six months out. Maybe if medical school didn't cost as much as a house more Americans could be doctors.

There's already restricted medical school slots and residency slots. The tuition cost isn't really a factor except for dropouts as most doctors easily pay it back.

Don't think so. $200,000+ is tough to stomach even if you're "guaranteed a job" after. Tuition is now so high that even with a well paying job you will be struggling for decades paying it off. Many people are scared off by that, and by the potential of having to pay it if they don't pass the boards (with years of wasted education that doesn't translate to finding a well paying job in a different field.) If we want to fix the medical shortage that needs to change.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2024, 02:57:41 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2024, 03:03:19 PM by lfromnj »

Foreign doctors should have been a bandaid while access to American medical education was improved. Instead we've done nothing but jack up tuition and create dire shortages everywhere. India apparently isn't pumping them out fast enough for us to access physicals and dental cleanings less than six months out. Maybe if medical school didn't cost as much as a house more Americans could be doctors.

There's already restricted medical school slots and residency slots. The tuition cost isn't really a factor except for dropouts as most doctors easily pay it back.

Don't think so. $200,000+ is tough to stomach even if you're "guaranteed a job" after. Tuition is now so high that even with a well paying job you will be struggling for decades paying it off. Many people are scared off by that, and by the potential of having to pay it if they don't pass the boards (with years of wasted education that doesn't translate to finding a well paying job in a different field.) If we want to fix the medical shortage that needs to change.

But again only so many people are accepted into med school  and residency .So maybe there a few slightly more qualified potential applicants that are scared off by the price but they are scooped by someone else.

Paying off the loans would probably be doing minimum payments thru residency and then live like a resident for 2 more years and you should have paid it off.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2024, 02:59:53 PM »

Foreign doctors should have been a bandaid while access to American medical education was improved. Instead we've done nothing but jack up tuition and create dire shortages everywhere. India apparently isn't pumping them out fast enough for us to access physicals and dental cleanings less than six months out. Maybe if medical school didn't cost as much as a house more Americans could be doctors.

There's already restricted medical school slots and residency slots. The tuition cost isn't really a factor except for dropouts as most doctors easily pay it back.

Then, that problem should be solved.... with grants I suppose?
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2024, 03:00:46 PM »

Foreign doctors should have been a bandaid while access to American medical education was improved. Instead we've done nothing but jack up tuition and create dire shortages everywhere. India apparently isn't pumping them out fast enough for us to access physicals and dental cleanings less than six months out. Maybe if medical school didn't cost as much as a house more Americans could be doctors.

There's already restricted medical school slots and residency slots. The tuition cost isn't really a factor except for dropouts as most doctors easily pay it back.

Don't think so. $200,000+ is tough to stomach even if you're "guaranteed a job" after. Tuition is now so high that even with a well paying job you will be struggling for decades paying it off. Many people are scared off by that, and by the potential of having to pay it if they don't pass the boards (with years of wasted education that doesn't translate to finding a well paying job in a different field.) If we want to fix the medical shortage that needs to change.

But again only so many people are accepted into med school  and residency .So maybe there a few slightly more qualified potential applicants that are scared off by the price but they are scooped by someone else.

The point is that the known sky-high cost of medical education scares many people off pursuing the profession entirely.
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2024, 03:01:25 PM »

Foreign doctors should have been a bandaid while access to American medical education was improved. Instead we've done nothing but jack up tuition and create dire shortages everywhere. India apparently isn't pumping them out fast enough for us to access physicals and dental cleanings less than six months out. Maybe if medical school didn't cost as much as a house more Americans could be doctors.

There's already restricted medical school slots and residency slots. The tuition cost isn't really a factor except for dropouts as most doctors easily pay it back.

Then, that problem should be solved.... with grants I suppose?

Possibly, it does seem like private industry has started to catch up to the idea that slaves residents for 80 hours a week for less than a nurse's salary is a great deal.
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