An American absurd

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'Rich Democrats' are mostly a bunch of well trained idiots.

When you have a billion dollars, you don't care how much you pay in taxes anymore. And it's not for noble reasons.

Lower income people vote Bush for a lot of reasons, the first being that they're smart enough to realize an anti-corporate policy is the fastest way to drive America into the ground.

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LMAO. Shira -- give me a break.

Yes, we've been through the life expectancy numbers. I believe you tried to tie that to health care somehow -- and yet, at the exact same time, hurricanes in Florida were in the news.

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I can safely say that the only reason this election was even close was the anti- Iraq war lie.

But yes, I do think it's hilarious that the Massachusetts Supreme Court may have won Bush this election. I don't know that to be true, but if so -- all in all, not bad.

Not bad at all.

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By Shira.

LMAO. Shira -- give me a break.

When a country is evaluated as to how advanced it is, the first indicator is Life Expectancy

When a county is evaluated as to how advanced it is, I suggest taking how advanced it is into consideration.

The United States is the greatest economic power in the world. It's the greatest military power in the world. It's the greatest political power in the world.

Oh, and we're hated by France. I think that alone proves we're a great nation.

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Saddam has ties to Al Qaeda. Bush never told anyone Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

The war was to stop him from being responsible for 9/11 version 2.0.

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I really doubt 60,000 people changed their vote to Bush because of gay marriage. They can still vote yes on an amendment and vote Kerry.

You have to believe that 120,000 religious people who wouldn't have otherwise voted were persuaded to show up because of this issue. Possible, albeit unlikely

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Saddam has ties to Al Qaeda. Bush never told anyone Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

The war was to stop him from being responsible for 9/11 version 2.0.

I am not talking about what Bush did or did not tell. I am talking about what many of his voters sincerily believe, or more accurately, were manipulated to believe.

Who manipulated them and how were they manipulated?

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Uh, 120,000 votes is not narrow.

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The Iraq war is the War on Terror.

That's not because Saddam was behind 9/11. It's because he had ties to Al Qaeda and could have brought about 9/11 2.

Thinking Hussein caused 9/11 is stupid, but it's no more stupid than thinking Bush lied about WMDs, or not understanding economics worth a damn, or not knowing the stock market crashed before Bush took office, or not realizing that taxing corporations adds to the price of the products you buy.

Both sides have stupid voters.

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Uh, 120,000 votes is not narrow.

It is 51:49 margin.
As I said, if only 50,000 (out of 2.8 M) of Bush voters had voted the other way then we would have heard different tunes.

BTW: In 2000 the margin in OH was 3.5%  for Bush.

I said:

I really doubt 60,000 people changed their vote to Bush because of gay marriage. They can still vote yes on an amendment and vote Kerry.

You have to believe that 120,000 religious people who wouldn't have otherwise voted were persuaded to show up because of this issue. Possible, albeit unlikely

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If there are 120,000 religious people in Ohio that wouldn't have otherwise voted, it might have made a difference.

This is a larger margin, BTW, than Kennedy won by nationally in 1960.

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I don't know about everyone else, but I for one am 100% in favor of global warming and I think we need to do whatever's necessary to speed it up.

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How are lower income people going to take an economic hit from George Bush?

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I have a suggestion. How about stupid, Shira?

But to repeat myself: it's no more stupid than thinking Bush lied about WMDs, or not understanding economics worth a damn, or not knowing the stock market crashed before Bush took office, or not realizing that taxing corporations adds to the price of the products you buy.

Both sides have stupid voters.

How are lower income people going to take an economic hit from George Bush?

For example, by denying them a reasonable helthcare system, by reducing the budgets to their schools and more and more items.

Education spending has skyrocketed under Bush. Maybe you should check your facts before you call other people "misinformed."

No one wants the big government health care system. Even most Democrats don't want it.

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Right. And so are the majority of Kerry's.

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But to repeat myself: it's no more stupid than thinking Bush lied about WMDs

As to Bush and the WMD.

Either
1 - Bush really believed in it
Or
2 - He knew that there is no WMD, but he badly wanted to invade Iraq for "other reasons".
Both of the above are very bad.

I personally tend to accept the second one.

Bush believed it. So did France, the UN, Russia, and every intelligence agency on the face of the planet.

I've responded to trash like this a million times, while everyone ignores a decade of history.

Now, someone explain this to me. Why would Bush feel like proving himself wrong?[/b]

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Next time you see an earthquake in the news, it's because of our health care system. Or so says Shira.