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« on: March 20, 2016, 06:25:18 PM »

Assume Clinton wins in 2008 and 2016, having named Obama her VP.  Would he have a clear path to the nomination?  Would he be favored to win the general?  And if so, how resoundingly?
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2016, 06:32:36 PM »

Obama would be doing just fine and will be at this stage running for President in 2016. He would easily get the Democratic nomination. Clinton would win both elections by similar margins
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2016, 11:23:37 AM »

Likely heading for his election.
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2016, 11:50:16 AM »
« Edited: March 21, 2016, 12:08:19 PM by Kingpoleon »

Treasury Secretary Steve Grossman is conducting an economic turnaround from the days of his predecessor, Secretary Cary Kennedy. However, Hillary's narrow win in 2012 against Fmr. Gov. Tim Pawlenty was concerning.

2012:

275: Clinton/Obama(49.2%)
263: Pawlenty/Sandoval(49.7%)
Others: 1.1%


2016 DEM PRIMARY:
Obama: 36%
Sanders: 35%
Bayh: 24%
Undecided: 4%

With a 43.8% approval rating for Clinton, Sandoval looks set to sweep the GOP primary against Ted Cruz, with Gardner's voters seeming to go narrowly for the Nevada Governor. The other Tea Partier, Lynn Jenkins, made a number of gaffes which seemed to damage the grassroots popularity. Sandoval is rated Tilt R(3-5%) against Obama and Tossup against Bayh(Bayh is considered up by between one and three percent). However, Cruz makes the race Tilt/Lean D against Obama(5-7.5%).
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2016, 12:34:28 PM »

VP Obama would have better progressive credentials than Clinton and would probably do better against Bernie in the primary. He would probably invite a conservative challenger like Webb though.

Dem primary polls would be around 55% Obama 35% Sanders 5% Webb
Obama would perform similarly as Clinton is performing in GE polls now.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2016, 10:07:21 PM »

Assuming Clinton governed and campaigned more to the center than Obama has, the 2010 wave would be smaller, but probably still enough to flip the House.  Without Obama's campaign skills or supercharged black turnout and the economy still being iffy, 2012 would basically be a pure toss up turning on OH, which Clinton narrowly wins. 

Obama has the 2016 nomination locked up 5X/3X over a Blue Dog type Southerner/Midwesterner.  Sanders doesn't run, as Obama still represents the frontier of the modern left.  Trump probably isn't running either, and he wouldn't win if he did.  Kasich is probably up narrowly over Cruz in the GOP primary.  Obama would be favored over Cruz, but would lose to Kasich by a Dukakis 1988 margin.

Other than the Mike Dukakis style loss to Kasich, I agree with everything here.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2016, 02:04:39 PM »

I don't think Senator Cruz would exist without President Obama.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2016, 08:36:35 PM »

I don't think a Clinton administration would have played out exactly like the Obama administration did.

That being said, he'd being doing about as well as Gore was in 2000.
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2016, 01:18:43 PM »

He would easily clinch the nomination and do even better than Hillary; especially with young people.
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