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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2020, 10:19:29 PM »

MI race is now pure tossup with Biden tanking.

Biden is not “tanking” anywhere outside your demented delusional empty head, and Trump has literally already given up on Michigan.

But by all means, keep smoking that crack SN. See where that gets you in life.
Biden is absolutely tanking. DNC was a massive failure. Negative bounce. Trump will get 3-5% bounce next week. This race is tilt R at this point

Biden isn’t tanking at all. Just because you want it to be true doesn’t make it so.
The betting market average is almost tied. Look at how Florida, Mich, Wisconsin avg is narrowing.

Which specific betting sites? Not doubting you, just curious, do you have some links?
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2020, 10:46:32 PM »

538 averages, two weeks ago vs now.
Florida: Biden +5.4%-Biden +5.1%
Michigan: Biden +7.7%-Biden +7.3%
Wisconsin: Biden +7.1%-Biden +6.2%

And as a bonus-
Nationwide: Biden +8.5%-Biden +9.1%

There has been no real change in the race for months, and there is no indication that Trump is suddenly going to surge in popularity. To top it off, the DNC got higher ratings than the RNC.
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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2020, 11:11:35 PM »

MI race is now pure tossup with Biden tanking.

Biden is not “tanking” anywhere outside your demented delusional empty head, and Trump has literally already given up on Michigan.

But by all means, keep smoking that crack SN. See where that gets you in life.
Biden is absolutely tanking. DNC was a massive failure. Negative bounce. Trump will get 3-5% bounce next week. This race is tilt R at this point

Biden isn’t tanking at all. Just because you want it to be true doesn’t make it so.
The betting market average is almost tied. Look at how Florida, Mich, Wisconsin avg is narrowing.

Betting markets are not accurate predictors
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« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2020, 08:25:22 PM »

538 averages, two weeks ago vs now.
Florida: Biden +5.4%-Biden +5.1%
Michigan: Biden +7.7%-Biden +7.3%
Wisconsin: Biden +7.1%-Biden +6.2%

And as a bonus-
Nationwide: Biden +8.5%-Biden +9.1%

There has been no real change in the race for months, and there is no indication that Trump is suddenly going to surge in popularity. To top it off, the DNC got higher ratings than the RNC.

RCP Michigan Average is now Biden +2.6%
Florida Biden +3.7%
Wisconsin Biden +3.5%

It's close right now. You can deny it all you want. Biden clearly started losing his momentum in mid to late July. He has played it too safe and is not campaigning enough. Combined this with decreasing covid cases, improving economy and the continued riots. All the fundamentals are starting to favor Trump.
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« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2020, 08:25:52 PM »

MI race is now pure tossup with Biden tanking.

Biden is not “tanking” anywhere outside your demented delusional empty head, and Trump has literally already given up on Michigan.

But by all means, keep smoking that crack SN. See where that gets you in life.
Biden is absolutely tanking. DNC was a massive failure. Negative bounce. Trump will get 3-5% bounce next week. This race is tilt R at this point

Biden isn’t tanking at all. Just because you want it to be true doesn’t make it so.
The betting market average is almost tied. Look at how Florida, Mich, Wisconsin avg is narrowing.

Which specific betting sites? Not doubting you, just curious, do you have some links?

Realclear has an average

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/
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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2020, 11:14:11 PM »

538 averages, two weeks ago vs now.
Florida: Biden +5.4%-Biden +5.1%
Michigan: Biden +7.7%-Biden +7.3%
Wisconsin: Biden +7.1%-Biden +6.2%

And as a bonus-
Nationwide: Biden +8.5%-Biden +9.1%

There has been no real change in the race for months, and there is no indication that Trump is suddenly going to surge in popularity. To top it off, the DNC got higher ratings than the RNC.

RCP Michigan Average is now Biden +2.6%
Florida Biden +3.7%
Wisconsin Biden +3.5%

It's close right now. You can deny it all you want. Biden clearly started losing his momentum in mid to late July. He has played it too safe and is not campaigning enough. Combined this with decreasing covid cases, improving economy and the continued riots. All the fundamentals are starting to favor Trump.

The RCP averages bounce around more, most of the time Biden has been up by mid to high single digits in those states. The 538 averages I cited are still great for Biden, it's now +5.4% in Florida, +7.1% in Michigan, and +6.1% in Wisconsin. The race has not changed, Biden has been clearly winning for months.
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« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2020, 06:56:05 AM »

I hate to agree with SN, but he is half right, it's a 278 EC map, but AZ, NC, IA and GA can split their votes for Prez, and unemployment keeps dropping to 7 percent
As for FL, Ds cant count on FL after it continuously vote R based on the Cuban embargo
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« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2020, 04:55:56 PM »

538 averages, two weeks ago vs now.
Florida: Biden +5.4%-Biden +5.1%
Michigan: Biden +7.7%-Biden +7.3%
Wisconsin: Biden +7.1%-Biden +6.2%

And as a bonus-
Nationwide: Biden +8.5%-Biden +9.1%

There has been no real change in the race for months, and there is no indication that Trump is suddenly going to surge in popularity. To top it off, the DNC got higher ratings than the RNC.

RCP Michigan Average is now Biden +2.6%
Florida Biden +3.7%
Wisconsin Biden +3.5%

It's close right now. You can deny it all you want. Biden clearly started losing his momentum in mid to late July. He has played it too safe and is not campaigning enough. Combined this with decreasing covid cases, improving economy and the continued riots. All the fundamentals are starting to favor Trump.

An absolutely ridiculous statement. The economy is by no means out of the woods, and we are likely to see 200,000 COVID deaths by mid-September. And last I checked, those riots are happening in Trump's America...
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2020, 04:03:03 PM »

It should be very clear that there is some manipulation going on in the betting markets that would likely be criminal if they were regulated.
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