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« Reply #1700 on: May 19, 2018, 06:10:29 PM »
« edited: May 19, 2018, 07:12:49 PM by scutosaurus »

Since the DAMN SOS doesn't have one statewide absentee file available for 2014 and since I can't find anything to properly merge 159 spreadsheets, I haven't went through the data between the two cycles to compare statewide.

But...here's a teaser in early votes:

2014-Gwinnett
Total Votes: 8019
BallotVotes%
GOP543267.7
DEM198324.8
NP6047.5

2018-Gwinnett
Total Votes: 16538
BallotVotes%
DEM928156.1
GOP658539.8
NP6724.1

Shocked Shocked Shocked

Wow. I knew the ATL metro was trending Democratic fast, but that's insane. It also reinforces my opinion that GA-7 would flip before GA-6; Rob Woodall should be getting worried.
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« Reply #1701 on: May 19, 2018, 06:15:18 PM »

If anybody is interested in comparing the % of ballots by county that were Democratic in 2010 and 2014, here is my nifty creation from a few years ago (just click on each county for figures):

Percentage Point Increase/Decrease in Share of Democratic Ballots Pulled by Electorate, 2010-2014

Note: the link above shows the results for all votes (EV & ED) and is a two-way model (excludes Non-Partisan ballots).

Note: the colors seen on that map are indicative of swing, and not indicative of which party had the most ballots cast in 2014.

To see the same map with each county shaded based on which party had more primary ballots cast in 2014, click here.
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« Reply #1702 on: May 19, 2018, 08:57:00 PM »

This is happening metro-wide:

Hall 2014: 89.1 R, 10.2 D
Hall 2018: 77.4 R, 21.3 D

Fayette 2014: 79.6 R, 20.1 D
Fayette 2018: 61.1 R, 38.4 D

Even in hostile counties (such as my own) outside the ATL media market, there's movement:

Whitfield 2014: 83.3 R, 14.9 D
Whitfield 2018: 77.1 R, 21.2 D
What’s happening in Forsyth and Cherokee counties?
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« Reply #1703 on: May 19, 2018, 09:20:24 PM »

This is happening metro-wide:

Hall 2014: 89.1 R, 10.2 D
Hall 2018: 77.4 R, 21.3 D

Fayette 2014: 79.6 R, 20.1 D
Fayette 2018: 61.1 R, 38.4 D

Even in hostile counties (such as my own) outside the ATL media market, there's movement:

Whitfield 2014: 83.3 R, 14.9 D
Whitfield 2018: 77.1 R, 21.2 D
What’s happening in Forsyth and Cherokee counties?

Cherokee 2014: 91.7 R, 8.1 D (7349 votes)
Cherokee 2018: 82.7 R, 16.8 D (7849 votes)

Forsyth 2014: 90.2 R, 7.4 D (6813 votes)
Forsyth 2018: 78.2 R, 18.1 D (12182 votes)
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« Reply #1704 on: May 19, 2018, 10:25:35 PM »

This is happening metro-wide:

Hall 2014: 89.1 R, 10.2 D
Hall 2018: 77.4 R, 21.3 D

Fayette 2014: 79.6 R, 20.1 D
Fayette 2018: 61.1 R, 38.4 D

Even in hostile counties (such as my own) outside the ATL media market, there's movement:

Whitfield 2014: 83.3 R, 14.9 D
Whitfield 2018: 77.1 R, 21.2 D
What’s happening in Forsyth and Cherokee counties?

Cherokee 2014: 91.7 R, 8.1 D (7349 votes)
Cherokee 2018: 82.7 R, 16.8 D (7849 votes)

Forsyth 2014: 90.2 R, 7.4 D (6813 votes)
Forsyth 2018: 78.2 R, 18.1 D (12182 votes)

Do you think Georgia is liable to flip earlier than expected? These swings are humongous.
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« Reply #1705 on: May 19, 2018, 11:20:53 PM »

This is happening metro-wide:

Hall 2014: 89.1 R, 10.2 D
Hall 2018: 77.4 R, 21.3 D

Fayette 2014: 79.6 R, 20.1 D
Fayette 2018: 61.1 R, 38.4 D

Even in hostile counties (such as my own) outside the ATL media market, there's movement:

Whitfield 2014: 83.3 R, 14.9 D
Whitfield 2018: 77.1 R, 21.2 D
What’s happening in Forsyth and Cherokee counties?

Cherokee 2014: 91.7 R, 8.1 D (7349 votes)
Cherokee 2018: 82.7 R, 16.8 D (7849 votes)

Forsyth 2014: 90.2 R, 7.4 D (6813 votes)
Forsyth 2018: 78.2 R, 18.1 D (12182 votes)

Do you think Georgia is liable to flip earlier than expected? These swings are humongous.
If Georgia is flipping, that means it's a Democratic rout nationwide.
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« Reply #1706 on: May 19, 2018, 11:32:49 PM »

This is happening metro-wide:

Hall 2014: 89.1 R, 10.2 D
Hall 2018: 77.4 R, 21.3 D

Fayette 2014: 79.6 R, 20.1 D
Fayette 2018: 61.1 R, 38.4 D

Even in hostile counties (such as my own) outside the ATL media market, there's movement:

Whitfield 2014: 83.3 R, 14.9 D
Whitfield 2018: 77.1 R, 21.2 D
What’s happening in Forsyth and Cherokee counties?

Cherokee 2014: 91.7 R, 8.1 D (7349 votes)
Cherokee 2018: 82.7 R, 16.8 D (7849 votes)

Forsyth 2014: 90.2 R, 7.4 D (6813 votes)
Forsyth 2018: 78.2 R, 18.1 D (12182 votes)

Do you think Georgia is liable to flip earlier than expected? These swings are humongous.
If Georgia is flipping, that means it's a Democratic rout nationwide.


Not necessarily, it's quite possible that GA is moving to even PVI overnight like VA did. 
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« Reply #1707 on: May 19, 2018, 11:38:27 PM »

Georgia is more likely to flip in 2020 than it is in 2018. There is a very large age gap in Georgia voting, and young people are not likely to turn out very well in 2018, even with Abrams's campaign being hyper-focused on the youth vote.
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« Reply #1708 on: May 19, 2018, 11:42:59 PM »

If Cagle is the nominee I know Abrams campaign is great and all I just don't see her winning. But if Cagle wins it will be narrow and with georgia's leftward lurch that is expected to accelerate in 2020 and beyond he will be in serious trouble come 2022 and I think Kemp would most likely lose against Abrams
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« Reply #1709 on: May 20, 2018, 12:09:16 AM »

This is happening metro-wide:

Hall 2014: 89.1 R, 10.2 D
Hall 2018: 77.4 R, 21.3 D

Fayette 2014: 79.6 R, 20.1 D
Fayette 2018: 61.1 R, 38.4 D

Even in hostile counties (such as my own) outside the ATL media market, there's movement:

Whitfield 2014: 83.3 R, 14.9 D
Whitfield 2018: 77.1 R, 21.2 D
What’s happening in Forsyth and Cherokee counties?

Cherokee 2014: 91.7 R, 8.1 D (7349 votes)
Cherokee 2018: 82.7 R, 16.8 D (7849 votes)

Forsyth 2014: 90.2 R, 7.4 D (6813 votes)
Forsyth 2018: 78.2 R, 18.1 D (12182 votes)

Do you think Georgia is liable to flip earlier than expected? These swings are humongous.
If Georgia is flipping, that means it's a Democratic rout nationwide.


Not necessarily, it's quite possible that GA is moving to even PVI overnight like VA did. 
No matter the national mood, GA flipping this year would be analogous to VA 2005/2006.
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« Reply #1710 on: May 20, 2018, 08:21:13 AM »

At this point I want Kemp to be the nominee. I believe he will activate the Dem base while also turning off enough GOPers that they’ll stay home, leave it blank, hold their nose for Abrams, etc.

A few of our seasoned Georgia posters have made mention that Kemp would not govern as far to the right as he pretends while Cagle who pretends to be the sensible adult in the room is really a hard-right ideologue. So if Kemp wins it won’t be that bad.
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« Reply #1711 on: May 20, 2018, 11:06:17 AM »
« Edited: May 20, 2018, 11:22:14 AM by Fmr. Pres. Griff »

So here are 15 relatively prominent counties (either by absolute population or relative population to their portions of the state) that I've already tabulated, with 2014 and 2018 margins, total raw vote for the two cycles and the swing in EV between the two cycles. These 15 counties comprise 51% of the state's 2010 population (likely closer to 55% today).

New fun fact: Savannah (Chatham County) apparently has the second-biggest swing of the bigger counties, behind Gwinnett and outpacing Cobb.

County'14 EV'18 EV'14 D'14 R'18 D'18 RSwing
Bibb5614504768.1%31.5%73.2%25.4%11.2
Chatham5955652642.4%57.1%66.0%30.4%50.3
Cherokee734978498.1%91.7%16.8%82.7%17.7
Clarke3672655261.7%37.2%73.6%22.3%26.8
Clayton4570677880.3%19.3%84.1%13.0%11.1
Cobb133731601821.7%77.8%44.2%55.1%45.2
Dekalb167992259478.1%20.8%86.3%12.8%16.2
Dougherty2209311088.2%11.6%85.8%12.6%3.4
Fayette----------20.1%79.6%38.4%61.1%36.8
Forsyth6813121827.4%90.2%18.1%78.2%22.7
Fulton173513976063.0%33.0%66.1%29.4%6.7
Gwinnett80191653824.8%67.7%56.1%39.8%59.2
Hall----------10.2%89.1%21.3%77.4%22.8
Muscogee9126810162.7%31.0%65.8%31.1%3.0
Whitfield----------14.9%83.3%21.2%77.1%12.5

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« Reply #1712 on: May 20, 2018, 11:28:58 AM »

If you have a chance can you do Henry? That’s a swing County with quite a few contested D primaries in districts where the R incumbents have had token or no opposition.

And also Newton County because I live there. Tongue

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« Reply #1713 on: May 20, 2018, 11:48:34 AM »

If you have a chance can you do Henry? That’s a swing County with quite a few contested D primaries in districts where the R incumbents have had token or no opposition.

And also Newton County because I live there. Tongue

Thanks for the info!

Sure thing - I'm gonna finish up the southern metro later this evening, along with Augusta and Valdosta and maybe a couple of other counties.
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« Reply #1714 on: May 20, 2018, 12:24:41 PM »

If you have a chance can you do Henry? That’s a swing County with quite a few contested D primaries in districts where the R incumbents have had token or no opposition.

And also Newton County because I live there. Tongue

Thanks for the info!

Sure thing - I'm gonna finish up the southern metro later this evening, along with Augusta and Valdosta and maybe a couple of other counties.

Could you do Quitman and Fannin counties? I want to see how Obama-Trump Georgia and the northern rural counties are behaving
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« Reply #1715 on: May 20, 2018, 12:43:01 PM »

Can you do some counties that have a high black population?
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« Reply #1716 on: May 20, 2018, 01:55:18 PM »

So here are 15 relatively prominent counties (either by absolute population or relative population to their portions of the state) that I've already tabulated, with 2014 and 2018 margins, total raw vote for the two cycles and the swing in EV between the two cycles. These 15 counties comprise 51% of the state's 2010 population (likely closer to 55% today).

New fun fact: Savannah (Chatham County) apparently has the second-biggest swing of the bigger counties, behind Gwinnett and outpacing Cobb.

County'14 EV'18 EV'14 D'14 R'18 D'18 RSwing
Bibb5614504768.1%31.5%73.2%25.4%11.2
Chatham5955652642.4%57.1%66.0%30.4%50.3
Cherokee734978498.1%91.7%16.8%82.7%17.7
Clarke3672655261.7%37.2%73.6%22.3%26.8
Clayton4570677880.3%19.3%84.1%13.0%11.1
Cobb133731601821.7%77.8%44.2%55.1%45.2
Dekalb167992259478.1%20.8%86.3%12.8%16.2
Dougherty2209311088.2%11.6%85.8%12.6%3.4
Fayette----------20.1%79.6%38.4%61.1%36.8
Forsyth6813121827.4%90.2%18.1%78.2%22.7
Fulton173513976063.0%33.0%66.1%29.4%6.7
Gwinnett80191653824.8%67.7%56.1%39.8%59.2
Hall----------10.2%89.1%21.3%77.4%22.8
Muscogee9126810162.7%31.0%65.8%31.1%3.0
Whitfield----------14.9%83.3%21.2%77.1%12.5



What could explain the much smaller increase for Cherokee compared to the other metro counties?
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« Reply #1717 on: May 20, 2018, 02:14:25 PM »

So here are 15 relatively prominent counties (either by absolute population or relative population to their portions of the state) that I've already tabulated, with 2014 and 2018 margins, total raw vote for the two cycles and the swing in EV between the two cycles. These 15 counties comprise 51% of the state's 2010 population (likely closer to 55% today).

New fun fact: Savannah (Chatham County) apparently has the second-biggest swing of the bigger counties, behind Gwinnett and outpacing Cobb.

County'14 EV'18 EV'14 D'14 R'18 D'18 RSwing
Bibb5614504768.1%31.5%73.2%25.4%11.2
Chatham5955652642.4%57.1%66.0%30.4%50.3
Cherokee734978498.1%91.7%16.8%82.7%17.7
Clarke3672655261.7%37.2%73.6%22.3%26.8
Clayton4570677880.3%19.3%84.1%13.0%11.1
Cobb133731601821.7%77.8%44.2%55.1%45.2
Dekalb167992259478.1%20.8%86.3%12.8%16.2
Dougherty2209311088.2%11.6%85.8%12.6%3.4
Fayette----------20.1%79.6%38.4%61.1%36.8
Forsyth6813121827.4%90.2%18.1%78.2%22.7
Fulton173513976063.0%33.0%66.1%29.4%6.7
Gwinnett80191653824.8%67.7%56.1%39.8%59.2
Hall----------10.2%89.1%21.3%77.4%22.8
Muscogee9126810162.7%31.0%65.8%31.1%3.0
Whitfield----------14.9%83.3%21.2%77.1%12.5



What could explain the much smaller increase for Cherokee compared to the other metro counties?
Its the whitest county in the metro.
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« Reply #1718 on: May 20, 2018, 04:47:44 PM »

VA 2006
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« Reply #1719 on: May 20, 2018, 05:48:50 PM »

County'14 EV'18 EV'14 D'14 R'18 D'18 RSwing
Bibb5614504768.1%31.5%73.2%25.4%11.2
Calhoun9515257.9%42.1%73.0%33.6%23.6
Chatham5955652642.4%57.1%66.0%30.4%50.3
Cherokee734978498.1%91.7%16.8%82.7%17.7
Clarke3672655261.7%37.2%73.6%22.3%26.8
Clayton4570677880.3%19.3%84.1%13.0%11.1
Cobb133731601821.7%77.8%44.2%55.1%45.2
Dekalb167992259478.1%20.8%86.3%12.8%16.2
Dougherty2209311088.2%11.6%85.8%12.6%3.4
Fannin132915688.1%91.5%12.2%86.5%9.1
Fayette----------20.1%79.6%38.4%61.1%36.8
Forsyth6813121827.4%90.2%18.1%78.2%22.7
Fulton173513976063.0%33.0%66.1%29.4%6.7
Gwinnett80191653824.8%67.7%56.1%39.8%59.2
Hall----------10.2%89.1%21.3%77.4%22.8
Hancock93371296.1%3.6%95.8%3.9%0.6
Henry4819839026.1%73.1%50.5%48.8%48.7
Lowndes3328313932.7%67.2%34.8%64.6%4.7
Muscogee9126810162.7%31.0%65.8%31.1%3.0
Newton3267335651.7%47.3%56.8%40.9%11.5
Quitman23519267.7%23.8%52.6%44.3%35.6
Randolph36260681.5%18.5%75.7%21.3%8.6
Richmond7903746771.0%27.2%67.0%30.2%7.0
Rockdale3705531751.3%48.4%56.6%41.3%12.4
Whitfield----------14.9%83.3%21.2%77.1%12.5



If you have a chance can you do Henry? That’s a swing County with quite a few contested D primaries in districts where the R incumbents have had token or no opposition.

And also Newton County because I live there. Tongue

Thanks for the info!

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Could you do Quitman and Fannin counties? I want to see how Obama-Trump Georgia and the northern rural counties are behaving

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Can you do some counties that have a high black population?

5 blackest counties (measured by % pop) are now added: Hancock, Dougherty, Clayton, Calhoun & Randolph
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« Reply #1720 on: May 20, 2018, 06:15:13 PM »

Henry County Shocked



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« Reply #1721 on: May 20, 2018, 06:22:27 PM »

Yeah Fayette County is going to flip in 1 or 2 cycles. Strange since Carlson called it one of the most conservative counties in the country.   
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« Reply #1722 on: May 20, 2018, 06:26:20 PM »

I wonder why dems are underperforming 2014 in Richmond county. I understand the rural black counties as many black people have been moving out of them to a city / suburb, but why Richmond?

Also, what would happen to Georgia's politics if Amazon put a headquarters in Atlanta?
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« Reply #1723 on: May 20, 2018, 06:44:55 PM »

I wonder why dems are underperforming 2014 in Richmond county. I understand the rural black counties as many black people have been moving out of them to a city / suburb, but why Richmond?

There's a decent amount of precedent in the three Fall Line urban counties (Muscogee, Bibb & Richmond) for significant under-performance in recent elections in various measurements. Whether it's lower turnout overall (which all 3 counties have this cycle in EV compared to four years ago; all 3 had fewer voters in 2014 than in 2010 despite only Bibb shrinking in pop) or a relatively large collapse in Democratic support in midterms compared to other urban clusters, Democrats have a hard time relying on votes in these counties to be there when needed most.
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« Reply #1724 on: May 20, 2018, 08:46:27 PM »
« Edited: May 21, 2018, 11:29:26 AM by Fmr. Pres. Griff »

Alright, here are 40 45 counties, comprising close to three-quarters of the state's population. I'm stopping here, lol. If anybody else wants to help fill in the blanks, let me know and I can point you to the relevant spreadsheets/zip files.

Just for some additional info: Clinton won these combined jurisdictions by a little over 7 points in 2016 (Obama won by 2 in 2012); the approximate 2018 EV primary composition has Democrats up by 8, which means Democrats are meeting/exceeding presidential representation in a midterm primary. These combined jurisdictions were 54% White, 32% Black VAP in 2010.

The rest of the state is close to 75% white VAP, though, so there could be comparable off-sets in the remainder of the state.



County'14 EV'18 EV'14 D'14 R'18 D'18 RSwing
Baldwin1522155745.6%52.4%54.3%44.6%16.5
Bartow1585183412.4%86.8%21.0%77.6%17.8
Bibb5614504768.1%31.5%73.2%25.4%11.2
Bulloch1823234933.5%64.7%41.5%57.4%15.3
Calhoun9515257.9%42.1%73.0%33.6%23.6
Catoosa989154811.6%88.1%20.6%76.9%20.2
Chatham5955652642.4%57.1%66.0%30.4%50.3
Chattooga107368450.0%46.1%36.0%62.8%30.7
Cherokee734978498.1%91.7%16.8%82.7%17.7
Clarke3672655261.7%37.2%73.6%22.3%26.8
Clayton4570677880.3%19.3%84.1%13.0%11.1
Cobb133731601821.7%77.8%44.2%55.1%45.2
Columbia2938609813.4%86.4%19.6%78.9%13.7
Coweta2203355222.7%77.0%30.6%68.6%16.3
Dade60268615.9%84.1%9.7%89.9%12.0
Dekalb167992259478.1%20.8%86.3%12.8%16.2
Dougherty2209311088.2%11.6%85.8%12.6%3.4
Douglas3327377034.1%65.6%52.2%47.3%36.4
Elbert623124127.3%71.3%24.8%74.2%5.4
Fannin132915688.1%91.5%12.2%86.5%9.1
Fayette-----528320.1%79.6%38.4%61.1%36.8
Floyd1793276223.3%76.4%27.7%68.9%11.9
Forsyth6813121827.4%90.2%18.1%78.2%22.7
Fulton173513976063.0%33.0%66.1%29.4%6.7
Glynn3899366917.7%81.7%30.7%68.2%26.5
Gordon931124013.4%86.1%19.0%80.9%10.8
Gwinnett80191653824.8%67.7%56.1%39.8%59.2
Hall-----444210.2%89.1%21.3%77.4%22.8
Hancock93371296.1%3.6%95.8%3.9%0.6
Henry4819839026.1%73.1%50.5%48.8%48.7
Houston3843434732.2%64.9%41.9%57.1%17.5
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