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« on: January 11, 2008, 07:44:58 AM »

should undocumented immigrants be allowed to file police reports without threat of deportation?
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2008, 08:56:03 AM »

I don't see why we shouldn't allow them to report crimes. If an illegal immigrant witnesses a kidnapping, should they not be allowed to report it? I'd say the kidnapping victim is far more important that deporting a single illegal immigrant in that kind of situation.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2008, 09:08:08 AM »

Yes.  A related question is whether drug users should be allowed to call an ambulance if one of their friends is overdosing without the police coming over too and everyone getting arrested.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2008, 09:16:44 AM »

Yes.  A related question is whether drug users should be allowed to call an ambulance if one of their friends is overdosing without the police coming over too and everyone getting arrested.

Another problem that would be resolved by legalizing drugs. Tongue

Anyway, yes.
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2008, 10:02:51 PM »

Of course.
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2008, 01:18:52 AM »

I don't see why we shouldn't allow them to report crimes. If an illegal immigrant witnesses a kidnapping, should they not be allowed to report it? I'd say the kidnapping victim is far more important that deporting a single illegal immigrant in that kind of situation.

But he said without being deported.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2008, 01:19:27 AM »

No - encourage them to report crimes though - but then deport them.
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2008, 01:22:59 AM »

No - encourage them to report crimes though - but then deport them.

Why would they report crimes if it means deportation? That's quite naïve.
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2008, 01:27:23 AM »

No - encourage them to report crimes though - but then deport them.

Why would they report crimes if it means deportation? That's quite naïve.

Conscience - the good of their heart - although if they're consciously breaking our law, why would they care about helping others.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2008, 01:32:29 AM »

No - encourage them to report crimes though - but then deport them.

Why would they report crimes if it means deportation? That's quite naïve.

Conscience - the good of their heart - although if they're consciously breaking our law, why would they care about helping others.

Becuase by helping our economy and sending money back to relatives, they are helping others. However, people usually report crimes out of self-interest, not conscience.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2008, 01:37:07 AM »

No - encourage them to report crimes though - but then deport them.

Why would they report crimes if it means deportation? That's quite naïve.

Conscience - the good of their heart - although if they're consciously breaking our law, why would they care about helping others.

Becuase by helping our economy and sending money back to relatives, they are helping others. However, people usually report crimes out of self-interest, not conscience.

Well, if they want to help their relatives they should go back and support them legally.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2008, 02:31:24 AM »

Or we could just make it legal for them to do so here.  It'd be even easier!
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2008, 02:52:12 AM »

No - encourage them to report crimes though - but then deport them.

Why would they report crimes if it means deportation? That's quite naïve.

Conscience - the good of their heart - although if they're consciously breaking our law, why would they care about helping others.

Becuase by helping our economy and sending money back to relatives, they are helping others. However, people usually report crimes out of self-interest, not conscience.

Well, if they want to help their relatives they should go back and support them legally.

Oh yes, because the reason they come here illegally in the 1st place is getting here legally and helping out there relatives is so easy & convenient (IF THEY HAVE 20 years to SPARE)    Fact of the matter is very few people legal or not is going to report a crime if it is likely to result in harm coming to their family and if an illegal immigrant would be deported that is exactly what would happen because they would no longer be able to support their family 

Would you report a crime if you did meant you might not be able to feed your kids or put clothes on their back?
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2008, 04:06:22 AM »

No - encourage them to report crimes though - but then deport them.

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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2008, 10:05:46 PM »

One should be able to report crimes anonymously.
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2008, 11:38:37 PM »

I don't see why we shouldn't allow them to report crimes. If an illegal immigrant witnesses a kidnapping, should they not be allowed to report it? I'd say the kidnapping victim is far more important that deporting a single illegal immigrant in that kind of situation.

But he said without being deported.

Uh, yeah, so? Deporting them would make it against their interests to report a crime - deporting them would be punishing them for making the report, hence it would be pretty much the same as banning them from reporting the crimes.
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2008, 12:03:57 AM »

No - encourage them to report crimes though - but then deport them.

Yeah, that's a winning strategy, "Please report a crime so we can identify you as an illegal immigrant and deport you."  I'm sure you'd get lots of takers there.
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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2008, 05:12:55 AM »

No - encourage them to report crimes though - but then deport them.

Yeah, that's a winning strategy, "Please report a crime so we can identify you as an illegal immigrant and deport you."  I'm sure you'd get lots of takers there.

Maybe he means that they'd tell them they're not being deported and then deport them anyway.

Which is almost certainly a violation of some international human rights law, and it wouldn't work for longer than a couple weeks because eventually it would get in the news.
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2008, 11:47:07 AM »

No - encourage them to report crimes though - but then deport them.

Yeah, that's a winning strategy, "Please report a crime so we can identify you as an illegal immigrant and deport you."  I'm sure you'd get lots of takers there.

Maybe he means that they'd tell them they're not being deported and then deport them anyway.

Which is almost certainly a violation of some international human rights law, and it wouldn't work for longer than a couple weeks because eventually it would get in the news.

Yes, that'd be impossible to maintain, and be just plain mean. Sad
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2008, 10:43:59 PM »

Which is almost certainly a violation of some international human rights law

That's never stopped America before. Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2008, 10:02:44 PM »

No - encourage them to report crimes though - but then deport them.

Why would they report crimes if it means deportation? That's quite naïve.

Conscience - the good of their heart - although if they're consciously breaking our law, why would they care about helping others.
WTF!? Illegal Immigrants are people too, and Christian people at that. They break the law at a lower rate than the average American citizen. Are you one of those idiots who thinks they are evil, bad, bad criminals?
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