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« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2011, 04:22:46 AM »

Huntsman is a no good RINO and the Republican Party already tried putting up the Democrats' favorite Republican last time around and look what happened.

Care to explain how he is a "RINO"?

I think you're just confused because you haven't seen an intelligent and rational republican in a while.


So, you agree with Huntsman that the so-called 'stimulus' bill was too small?!?
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« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2011, 07:42:19 AM »


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57498.html
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« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2011, 01:58:12 PM »

Huntsman is a no good RINO and the Republican Party already tried putting up the Democrats' favorite Republican last time around and look what happened.

Care to explain how he is a "RINO"?

I think you're just confused because you haven't seen an intelligent and rational republican in a while.


He supports civil unions and other rights for same-sex couples (I'm not against that, but the majority of Republicans are), promoted cap and trade, supported an individual mandate for healthcare (If he tries going after Romney on this it will be a serious lol on him), does not believe in constructing a border fence, and is wobbly on the death penalty. Those are not positions a governor of the most Republican and Conservative state in the country should have been endorsing. Romney and Reagan for that matter have the excuse of having more liberal records are Governors considering how Massachusetts and California have always been much more progressive than most of the country.
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« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2011, 02:27:44 PM »

Huntsman is less of a 'RINO' than Palin and Bachmann.
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« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2011, 02:41:09 PM »

Huntsman is a no good RINO and the Republican Party already tried putting up the Democrats' favorite Republican last time around and look what happened.

Care to explain how he is a "RINO"?

I think you're just confused because you haven't seen an intelligent and rational republican in a while.


So, you agree with Huntsman that the so-called 'stimulus' bill was too small?!?
Yes. It should have cost at least $1 trillion.

Huntsman is a no good RINO and the Republican Party already tried putting up the Democrats' favorite Republican last time around and look what happened.

Care to explain how he is a "RINO"?

I think you're just confused because you haven't seen an intelligent and rational republican in a while.


He supports civil unions and other rights for same-sex couples (I'm not against that, but the majority of Republicans are), promoted cap and trade, supported an individual mandate for healthcare (If he tries going after Romney on this it will be a serious lol on him), does not believe in constructing a border fence, and is wobbly on the death penalty. Those are not positions a governor of the most Republican and Conservative state in the country should have been endorsing. Romney and Reagan for that matter have the excuse of having more liberal records are Governors considering how Massachusetts and California have always been much more progressive than most of the country.
I didn't know about his positions on the border fence and capital punishment. If true, that makes me support him even more strongly.
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« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2011, 04:50:28 PM »

Huntsman's family has been close friends with Harry Reid for years, and has donated about $25,000 to him.  Jon himself hasn't, but this isn't exactly helpful for his image.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2011/jun/22/huntsmans-family-gave-nearly-25000-reid-last-cycle/
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« Reply #56 on: June 22, 2011, 04:52:39 PM »

I didn't know about his positions on the border fence and capital punishment. If true, that makes me support him even more strongly.

Seems to be the rule for me -- if "true conservatives" are against a Republican, it's usually a clue that they're my ideal candidate.

Corrolary: Explains why they tolerate Romney.  I hate that guy.
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« Reply #57 on: June 22, 2011, 05:47:05 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2011, 05:49:48 PM by A Serious King »

Huntsman's family has been close friends with Harry Reid for years, and has donated about $25,000 to him.  Jon himself hasn't, but this isn't exactly helpful for his image.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2011/jun/22/huntsmans-family-gave-nearly-25000-reid-last-cycle/

A truly nominee worthy politician can circumvent such things.  This is why Romney blew it in 2008 and will likely not be the nominee in 2012.  He sucks at handling scrutiny.

The bigger problem for Huntsman is that the conspiracy theorists of the right will accuse him of being the real life Manchurian candidate.  Or to lesser extent, that he only became a Republican because he knew he couldn't win as a Democrat in Utah.
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« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2011, 10:49:30 PM »

Huntsman raised $1.2 million on first day of campaign. Join the Hunt!

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/jon-huntsman-raises-1-2-million-on-first-day-of-campaign/
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« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2011, 10:55:12 PM »


Almost as good as Romney's $10.2 mil first day... almost.
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« Reply #60 on: June 22, 2011, 10:57:10 PM »


IIRC, that was pledged money, not actual donations?
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« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2011, 03:06:18 AM »
« Edited: June 23, 2011, 05:12:33 AM by CARLHAYDEN »


So, do you agree with Huntsman that the Obama 'stimulus' bill (aka porkulus) was too small?

You seem to be dodging.

Oh, and let me add some other questions:

Which Huntsman position on the individual mandate for healthcare coverage do you prefer?

Are you so enthusiastic about Huntsman because he advocates strangling the economy on the pretext of ‘global warming’?

Do you support Huntsman because the liberal media is absolutely ga-ga over him?

Maybe the endorsement of Huntsman by Sen. Reid ways heavily with you?

Or, is it the gushing by Rachel Maddow?

http://progressivepride.com/2011/06/22/maddow-loves-jon-huntsman-campaign-kickoff/

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« Reply #62 on: June 23, 2011, 09:10:04 AM »

You tell 'em, CARL!
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« Reply #63 on: June 23, 2011, 12:21:44 PM »

Which Huntsman position on the individual mandate for healthcare coverage do you prefer?
I prefer his first position on the individual mandate, actually. It's unfortunate that he decided to abandon such a reasonable and level-headed position.
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If you're referring to his past support of emissions trading, he dropped it due to the economic recession: http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677-e2-wire/167925-huntsman-cap-and-trade-at-odds-with-todays-reality
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It's nice to see bipartisanship, but Senator Reid's endorsements do not factor whatsoever into my deciding who to support.
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Perhaps you provided the wrong link, because I saw no gushing in that video.

Now, if I may ask you a question, Carl: who do you support in the 2012 Republican presidential primary?
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« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2011, 06:09:00 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2011, 06:15:36 PM by SayNotoJonHuntsman »

OMG so fricken hilarious. His ads are some of the worst I've ever seen from a candidate.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jimmy-kimmel-on-jon-huntsmans-campaign-ad-sad-like-the-trailer-for-a-movie-where-the-dog-dies/
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« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2011, 06:29:20 PM »


I've been looking for a Republican who tackles the all important issue of pancakes.
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« Reply #66 on: June 24, 2011, 10:53:28 AM »


Haven't seen the video (damned video blocking at work) but I'll say this:

Same people did Demon Sheep.  Fiorina won the nomination handily.

It has been the Huntsman campaign's intent all along to first raise profile, and second to worry about being taken seriously.  Frankly, with Huntsman's resume, I think it's the right move -- better to flame out spectularly than to languish in obscurity.

Here's hoping that his next move is to debate a foaming-at-the-mouth social conservative...in Chinese.
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« Reply #67 on: June 24, 2011, 07:40:25 PM »


Will Jeb Bush Jr. come on board soon?

http://www.seattlepi.com/national/politico/article/Jeb-Jr-joins-Huntsman-1439325.php
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« Reply #68 on: June 24, 2011, 07:51:56 PM »

Well, I have twice asked you if you agreed with Huntsman on things like the 'stimulus' bill being too small.

If you disagreed with that position, or the others I have cited, you could have simply so noted.

So, where exactly do you disagree with Obama (as he and Huntsman are pretty much in agreement)?

Also, why support a copy instead of the original?

Is it the ugly face of raacism?
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« Reply #69 on: June 24, 2011, 07:59:48 PM »

Well, I have twice asked you if you agreed with Huntsman on things like the 'stimulus' bill being too small.

If you disagreed with that position, or the others I have cited, you could have simply so noted.

So, where exactly do you disagree with Obama (as he and Huntsman are pretty much in agreement)?

Also, why support a copy instead of the original?

Is it the ugly face of raacism?

"I guess in hindsight we can all say that there were some fundamental flaws with it," the potential GOP presidential candidate told Politico two years ago. "It probably wasn’t large enough."

He's saying it probably wasn't big enough to make an impact, he's not saying it should be bigger, simply giving a problem of the stimulus doesn't give support of it.

Here's his official position on the stimulus:
"Jon Huntsman said that he wouldn’t have voted for President Obama’s stimulus plan and warned from the beginning that “much of the spending (in the stimulus) is misdirected and more likely to bloat the government than boost the economy.”"
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« Reply #70 on: June 24, 2011, 08:37:05 PM »



Well, I have twice asked you if you agreed with Huntsman on things like the 'stimulus' bill being too small.

If you disagreed with that position, or the others I have cited, you could have simply so noted.

So, where exactly do you disagree with Obama (as he and Huntsman are pretty much in agreement)?

Also, why support a copy instead of the original?

Is it the ugly face of raacism?

"I guess in hindsight we can all say that there were some fundamental flaws with it," the potential GOP presidential candidate told Politico two years ago. "It probably wasn’t large enough."

He's saying it probably wasn't big enough to make an impact, he's not saying it should be bigger, simply giving a problem of the stimulus doesn't give support of it.

Here's his official position on the stimulus:
"Jon Huntsman said that he wouldn’t have voted for President Obama’s stimulus plan and warned from the beginning that “much of the spending (in the stimulus) is misdirected and more likely to bloat the government than boost the economy.”"

First, thank you for responding.

Second, the quote I was citing is NOT his revised (now that he's running) statement, but rather his original statement, which is:

Jon Huntsman Thought the Stimulus Was Too Small

2/1/11 at 2:15 PM

"I guess in hindsight we can all say that there were some fundamental flaws with it," the potential GOP presidential candidate told Politico two years ago. "It probably wasn’t large enough."

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/02/john_huntsman_thought_the_stim.html

So, which Jon Huntsman are you supporting?

And as to the other questions I posed...?
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« Reply #71 on: June 24, 2011, 09:05:58 PM »



Well, I have twice asked you if you agreed with Huntsman on things like the 'stimulus' bill being too small.

If you disagreed with that position, or the others I have cited, you could have simply so noted.

So, where exactly do you disagree with Obama (as he and Huntsman are pretty much in agreement)?

Also, why support a copy instead of the original?

Is it the ugly face of raacism?

"I guess in hindsight we can all say that there were some fundamental flaws with it," the potential GOP presidential candidate told Politico two years ago. "It probably wasn’t large enough."


He's saying it probably wasn't big enough to make an impact, he's not saying it should be bigger, simply giving a problem of the stimulus doesn't give support of it.

Here's his official position on the stimulus:
"Jon Huntsman said that he wouldn’t have voted for President Obama’s stimulus plan and warned from the beginning that “much of the spending (in the stimulus) is misdirected and more likely to bloat the government than boost the economy.”"

First, thank you for responding.

Second, the quote I was citing is NOT his revised (now that he's running) statement, but rather his original statement, which is:

Jon Huntsman Thought the Stimulus Was Too Small

2/1/11 at 2:15 PM

"I guess in hindsight we can all say that there were some fundamental flaws with it," the potential GOP presidential candidate told Politico two years ago. "It probably wasn’t large enough."

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/02/john_huntsman_thought_the_stim.html

So, which Jon Huntsman are you supporting?

And as to the other questions I posed...?


I referenced that quote in my response, you obviously didn't see it.
As to your other questions, you can ask them again if you want a response.
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« Reply #72 on: June 25, 2011, 12:24:58 AM »

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« Reply #73 on: June 25, 2011, 01:22:30 AM »


that article calls him "former governor Jeb Bush Jr." wow.
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« Reply #74 on: June 27, 2011, 11:21:00 AM »



Well, I have twice asked you if you agreed with Huntsman on things like the 'stimulus' bill being too small.

If you disagreed with that position, or the others I have cited, you could have simply so noted.

So, where exactly do you disagree with Obama (as he and Huntsman are pretty much in agreement)?

Also, why support a copy instead of the original?

Is it the ugly face of raacism?

"I guess in hindsight we can all say that there were some fundamental flaws with it," the potential GOP presidential candidate told Politico two years ago. "It probably wasn’t large enough."


He's saying it probably wasn't big enough to make an impact, he's not saying it should be bigger, simply giving a problem of the stimulus doesn't give support of it.

Here's his official position on the stimulus:
"Jon Huntsman said that he wouldn’t have voted for President Obama’s stimulus plan and warned from the beginning that “much of the spending (in the stimulus) is misdirected and more likely to bloat the government than boost the economy.”"

First, thank you for responding.

Second, the quote I was citing is NOT his revised (now that he's running) statement, but rather his original statement, which is:

Jon Huntsman Thought the Stimulus Was Too Small

2/1/11 at 2:15 PM

"I guess in hindsight we can all say that there were some fundamental flaws with it," the potential GOP presidential candidate told Politico two years ago. "It probably wasn’t large enough."

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/02/john_huntsman_thought_the_stim.html

So, which Jon Huntsman are you supporting?

And as to the other questions I posed...?


I referenced that quote in my response, you obviously didn't see it.
As to your other questions, you can ask them again if you want a response.

So, then you agree that the stimuluous bill should have been larger?

Oh, and do you agree with this Huntsman/Obama policy:

As governor of Utah, he appeared in a 2007 ad for an environmental advocacy group in which he said, "Now it's time for Congress to act by capping greenhouse gas pollution."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700140035/Top-GOP-contenders-flip-on-global-warming.html
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