Western Europe political parties survivor - Norw. Labour Party is the survivor !

[JonBidinger]

5 M
4 D66
3 GroenLinks
2 SAP
1 PSOE

[big bad fab]

I know that I don't help the move with my 4 points for EE-LV.
But, really, they are so epic failure...
And, well, if they go, it will be mieux que rien !

[Antonio the Sixth]

EELV is objectively less deserving to stay than PSOE. Both need to go though, so whatever is the results I will be satisfied.

Oh Edu, c'mon, I've never been a rabid defender of the PSOE, but a few ones had to go before it and I try to respect my logic.

[Edu]

Oh Edu, c'mon, I've never been a rabid defender of the PSOE, but a few ones had to go before it and I try to respect my logic.

Actually PSOE, Labour, the Tories, the Socialist party of France, CDU/CSU, the SPD Germany, the LibDems and the UMP should have all been eliminated before the start of Phase III but whatever

I'll continue with my crusade, and if it fails...well, though luck for me

[Antonio the Sixth]

PSOE won't resist eternally... Actually I'm warming up to the idea of ousting it, mainly because I'm fed up of this stupid pro/anti-PSOE polarization. Once it is out, we could start again seeing more original combinations.

[Niemeyerite]

PSOE won't resist eternally... Actually I'm warming up to the idea of ousting it, mainly because I'm fed up of this stupid pro/anti-PSOE polarization. Once it is out, we could start again seeing more original combinations.

that's true, unfortunately... but PSOE deserves to be eliminated after the other parties Edu said. Remember we are the biggest socialist party in Europe

[Antonio the Sixth]

Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France) is out

Leader Cécile Duflot


Last general election result (2007) 3.3%, 4/577 seats (results for The Greens)

EELV : 27
PSOE : 26
IdV : 23
GL : 16
CDU/CSU : 14
SAP : 12
M : 10
D66 : 10
Grüne : 6
DNA : 5




- Social Democratic Party of Austria Immune for rounds 20-24
- Progressive Party of Working People (Cyprus)
- Social Democrats (Denmark)
- Danish Social Liberal Party
- Venstre (Denmark)
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
- Green League (Finland)
- Centre Party (Finland)
- National Coalition Party (Finland)
- Left Front (France)
- Socialist Party (France)
- Europe Écologie – Les Verts (France)
- Alliance '90/The Greens (Germany)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)
- Communist Party of Greece
- Italy of Values
- GreenLeft (Netherlands)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands)
- Norwegian Labour Party
- Centre Party (Norway)
- Liberal Party (Norway)
- Conservative Party (Norway)
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
- Spanish Socialist Workers' Party
- Swedish Social Democratic Party
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
- Centre Party (Sweden)
- Moderate Party (Sweden)
- Labour Party (UK)

Round 21 begins. You have 2 votes to eliminate, to cast 1-1, and 1 vote to keep.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Eliminate:~

CDU/CSU
IDV

Keep:

green/ Buendnis 90

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ben :

Eliminate Grüne and IdV

Keep D66

[Niemeyerite]

1 CDU/CSU
1 IdV

keep PSOE

[Nhoj]

Argh
1 PSOE
1 GroenLinks

keep
CDU/CSU

[big bad fab]

Eliminate
PSOE
IdV

Keep
CDU-CSU

I can't vote for GreenLeft, I must be sure CDU is safe by voting for IdV...
Again, PSOE will stay in... I hate your rules, Antonio

[homelycooking]

Eliminate
IdV
Sweden Moderates

Keep PSOE

[Hash]

eliminate CDU/CSU and IDV

keep D66

[Antonio the Sixth]

In some way, it is a bit of a pity to eliminate EELV just in the moment when its member seem to prove they aren't totally brainless. But at least this is done.

The final top 10 is nice enough, though of course there are some mistakes. It's a bit lopsided (7 left-wing parties and only 3 right-wing) but probably the next rounds will bring some balance. Now it's time to join Edu and Fab in our quest to kill PSOE.


Eliminate PSOE and CDU/CSU

Keep IdV


Fab and Jarl, I must say I'm pretty disappointed by your strategic skills. If you really wanted PSOE out, you needed to protect Idv... If you had, at this point the race would be close and with Edu left to vote... Instead of blaming the voting system, try to adapt to it !

[big bad fab]

C'mon ! You say this to me and at the same time, you vote for CDU ?!?

I can't try to kill PSOE at all costs: there is one cost I can't afford, losing CDU !!!

As we don't know at all about future rules and as your rules change so big from one round to another, I must be cautious.

And remember that YOU can choose when you vote, not us . We can't really calculate so much.

[Niemeyerite]

Once PSOE's killed, Edu and other (I suppose) will go after CDU, big bad. So, each round PSOE survives, so does the CDU.

[Antonio the Sixth]

C'mon ! You say this to me and at the same time, you vote for CDU ?!?

I can't try to kill PSOE at all costs: there is one cost I can't afford, losing CDU !!!

When I voted CDU stood at 0 (as much keep votes as eliminate) and IdV at 7. You clearly overestimated the risk.

[big bad fab]

Once PSOE's killed, Edu and other (I suppose) will go after CDU, big bad. So, each round PSOE survives, so does the CDU.

Nice try, Julio .
Though you're right for Edu, but only for him .

I just try to push CDU as long as I can, but I have no illusion: no rightist party would ever win a survivor !

But if you want to join a crusade against GreenLeft instead of CDU, then I may consider dropping my attacks on PSOE .

[big bad fab]

C'mon ! You say this to me and at the same time, you vote for CDU ?!?

I can't try to kill PSOE at all costs: there is one cost I can't afford, losing CDU !!!

When I voted CDU stood at 0 (as much keep votes as eliminate) and IdV at 7. You clearly overestimated the risk.

But when I voted, CDU was at 1 and IdV at 3, with Julio, JonBidinger, even yourself, Hash and homely to vote: far too potential votes against CDU.

You don't really live what a rightist is forced to live in these survivors : always aware that a big fine rightist party or politician is ousted, just because hawkeye, obamanation, Xahar, jfern, BRTD, JoeRepublic, etc. are bored and come here to drop a leftist vote, out of nowhere...

The reverse risk from rightist forumers exists only in US politics, with this great bunch of stupid libertarian hacks.... As they don't know anything outside the US (errr... some ven don't know there is something outside the US), the situation of a rightist European is probably the worst .

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, of course I understand. But PSOE must go very soon or a lot of awesome parties will be killed just for the sake of saving it.

Oh BTW, my rules follow a very precise logic (except those ending by 3 and 8) and by looking at previous rounds you could be able to predict what will be the rule used next time. I hope this rule will be more prone to PSOE's elimination, but the rules matters far less than the way people vote.

[Edu]

You must be f**king kidding me. what the hell is this?

Eliminate
PSOE
CDU/CSU

Keep
IdV

Of course it will survive this round, but if it isn't ousted next round i think I'm going to use all my power (which is admittedly very little) to try and have a final between PSOE and some random green party just for the lulz

[Antonio the Sixth]

If it weren't for Fab, it'd be a tie... Add Jarl and PSOE would be out. Now I swear we'll kill it next round !

[big bad fab]

This is my fault, now ?!?

[Niemeyerite]

Once PSOE's killed, Edu and other (I suppose) will go after CDU, big bad. So, each round PSOE survives, so does the CDU.

Nice try, Julio .
Though you're right for Edu, but only for him .

I just try to push CDU as long as I can, but I have no illusion: no rightist party would ever win a survivor !

But if you want to join a crusade against GreenLeft instead of CDU, then I may consider dropping my attacks on PSOE .

OK, let's go after GreenLeft.

Yeah, of course I understand. But PSOE must go very soon or a lot of awesome parties will be killed just for the sake of saving it.

Excuse me Antonio but PSOE is an awesome party.


I'm only joking of course. there aren't any awesome parties. PSOE is the least bad, for me.