Greek parliamentary election, 7 July 2019

[jaichind]

XA at 2.99% for a while now

[Landslide Lyndon]

The good is that Golden Dawn's days as a parliamentary party are over.

The bad is that SYRIZA still got more than 30% after four years of disastrous governance.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

I think we all know that a ND government would have been little different than SYRIZA in the end. At the very least, SYRIZA treated refugees with some respect for a while and achieved a historic accord with Macedonia (that's probably toilet paper now?).

Few "neo-liberals" have any issue with SYRIZA, which is considered to be a responsible and prudent party among the global elite. Criticism that they've received seems to mostly revolve around their secular and "liberal" inclinations or from leftists who are rightfully angry at SYRIZA for betraying their voters.

In the end, that betrayal meant little - ND isn't an alternative to SYRIZA. It'll be the same government, but perhaps slightly more cruel, slightly more austere - why not vote for the party that pretends to be left-wing?

[Tender Branson]

Damn ... turnout just around 50%.

Greece should have held the election during the fall like Austria, it seems all the voters went to the beach today.

There is a reason why elections should not be held during the summer holidays ...

[Oryxslayer]

Damn ... turnout just around 50%.

Greece should have held the election during the fall like Austria, it seems all the voters went to the beach today.

There is a reason why elections should not be held during the summer holidays ...

There was a large heat wave today, you can't really plsn for unusual weather. I don't think anyone wants to leave AC in those circumstances. In the fall it would be torrential rain, in the winter deep snow. Certainly not in Greece, but the unusual circumstances still occur.

[bigic]

The far-left is famous for being splintered into 1000 factions, but in few of the countries the factions compete in elections as in Greece. Out of 20 parties running, there are 9 parties left of Syriza, including 2 "Marxist-Leninist" communist parties. KKE and MeRA25 (probably) will enter the parliament, PE wins 1,46%, and all the other parties score under 1%.

As for the far-right, Golden Dawn falls to 2,98%.

[Tender Branson]

Are the monks on Mount Athos not voting (the grey area in the North) ?

[DavidB.]

Damn ... turnout just around 50%.

Greece should have held the election during the fall like Austria, it seems all the voters went to the beach today.

There is a reason why elections should not be held during the summer holidays ...

Not every post of yours has to include the word Austria, you know.

[Tender Branson]

Damn ... turnout just around 50%.

Greece should have held the election during the fall like Austria, it seems all the voters went to the beach today.

There is a reason why elections should not be held during the summer holidays ...

Not every post of yours has to include the word Austria, you know.

I know ...

But since our election is coincidentally held in the fall, I thought I should include it.

[President Johnson]

I hope the new government will be able to stimulate the economy through reasonable structural reforms. Greece needs less bureaucracy and stronger support for small/medium businesses. But I'm skeptical. ND, among others, put the country in this mess.

[jaichind]

Syriza outperforming exit polls

[Landslide Lyndon]

Turnout is actually around 57%, which is pretty damn good considering the circumstances.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I think we all know that a ND government would have been little different than SYRIZA in the end. At the very least, SYRIZA treated refugees with some respect for a while and achieved a historic accord with Macedonia (that's probably toilet paper now?).
 

The Prespes agreement is between the states of Greece and North Macedonia. A new government can't just cancel it.

[Tender Branson]

Turnout is actually around 57%, which is pretty damn good considering the circumstances.

Yes, it’s going up slightly.

But what about Athos ?

It is still grey on the map.

Is the area exempt from voting ?

[President Johnson]

Are the monks on Mount Athos not voting (the grey area in the North) ?

I don't think so. Athos is also grey on the map of the last election. The third finger of Chalkidiki (wonderful place by the way) has a major status of autonomy within Greece.

[jaichind]

I assume a bunch of the XA vote went to EL?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Turnout is actually around 57%, which is pretty damn good considering the circumstances.

Yes, it’s going up slightly.

But what about Athos ?

It is still grey on the map.

Is the area exempt from voting ?

Athos is an autonomous area supervised by the greek state. There are people of all nationalities that live there, so most of them can't vote.

[RodPresident]

And this agreement probably helped some XA vote to migrate to ND in hope of blocking this agreement.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Honestly surprised the Syriza vote held so well tbh: for better or for worse they are likely to remain rhe most important force of the Greek left.

[Oryxslayer]

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1147976947647074304?s=19

[Velasco]

Are the monks on Mount Athos not voting (the grey area in the North) ?

I don't think so. Athos is also grey on the map of the last election. The third finger of Chalkidiki (wonderful place by the way) has a major status of autonomy within Greece.

Mount Athos is a "monastic republic", in certain regards its status is equivalent to the Vatican within Italy.

I think we all know that a ND government would have been little different than SYRIZA in the end. At the very least, SYRIZA treated refugees with some respect for a while and achieved a historic accord with Macedonia (that's probably toilet paper now?).
 

The Prespes agreement is between the states of Greece and North Macedonia. A new government can't just cancel it.

Glad to know that Mitsotakis can't throw the Prespes Agreement and the deal has a chance to survive. Otherwise I concur with The DeadFlagBlues. I wish Mitsotakis the best of luck for the good of the country and hope that he and his party have learned from the mistakes of previous ND administrations that falsified the state of Greek public accounts.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I'm not particularly optimistic about the new government.
But I'm pretty damn sure that it can't be any worse that what we got the last four years.

[brucejoel99]

For all the jokes about Greece not being efficient, they count votes very fast. Nearly 95% counted in less than 6 hours.

Also, great news that Golden Dawn the Nazis might actually not make it this time! They're at 2.94% as of right now.

[rob in cal]

I'm surprised that the Syriza vote held up so well. Would think that lots of disaffected Syriza voters from 2015 would have migrated to some of the other leftist parties.

[CumbrianLefty]

I'm surprised that the Syriza vote held up so well. Would think that lots of disaffected Syriza voters from 2015 would have migrated to some of the other leftist parties.

If nothing else it shows how toxic PASOK remains to many, even after a "rebrand".