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« on: September 20, 2016, 05:27:18 PM »

If a guy friend of yours left his wife for another woman would you drop him as a friend?

Unless his wife was objectively horrible to him and had been since before the affair I'd strongly consider it, yes.
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2016, 07:49:26 PM »
« Edited: September 20, 2016, 07:54:36 PM by The Donald »

If a guy friend of yours left his wife for another woman would you drop him as a friend?

Unless his wife was objectively horrible to him and had been since before the affair I'd strongly consider it, yes.

What if he just fell in love with another woman/out of love with his wife by accident? You can't control these things, you know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DArOKcgq-Zs

Responsibilities take precedence over feelings.

I've addressed this exact scenario recently elsewhere on the forum:

Say a man (or woman) is married but falls deeply in love with a woman other than his (or her) wife. This may mean that he, emotionally, 'loves' his wife less than he did before (or it may not!), but if so he can still communicate practical love to both women by being faithful to the obligations both that marriage means that he incurs to his wife and that whatever relationship he has with the other woman means that he incurs to her. In the case of his wife, this means that he doesn't become sexually intimate with the other woman and possibly emotionally distances himself from her somewhat. In the case of the other woman, it means that he continues to treat her solicitously and doesn't blame her for his own emotional conundrum.

I actually do have a friend whom I'm trying to get out of my friendship with because, among other reasons, her reaction to falling in love with someone other than her husband was so repulsive. I tried hard to rationalize her behavior to myself; for various reasons I'd almost certainly try less hard with a man.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2016, 07:56:45 PM »
« Edited: September 20, 2016, 08:03:02 PM by The Donald »

I don't care if my friends cheat on their spouses, that is their business to deal with. As long as their spouses aren't closer friends to me than they are.

I support my friends, even when they make mistakes (within reason of course).

To be clear, it was how she dealt with the aftermath/consequences of cheating that was so repellent. She basically blamed her husband for not being sexually voracious enough and explicitly refused to admit she'd done anything wrong. I was 'on her side' (to a point) during the (brief) period of time between her cheating and it becoming clear that this was how she was going to process it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2016, 08:02:48 PM »

Not our job to bust into his bedroom and moral police him.

I mean, I might have done something like that (and my friends would probably expect me to, honestly), but I recognize that that very much calls for an (abnormal).

Last news from her is she's now cheated on the girl she cheated on her husband with, and is finally admitting fault, not for cheating, but for developing feelings for the guy she was casually [Inks]ing instead of spending time with her girlfriend.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2016, 01:38:15 AM »


What's especially sad about all this is that when I met her about six years ago she was a very restrained person and a liberal-but-devout Muslim. Now the way she goes about her life is somewhere between Emma Bovary and Charlie Sheen. Every individual step in the process of her going from 2010 her to current her made sense at the time.

At one point, more recently than I'd like to admit, I made the mistake of confiding in her that I feel more sexual urges in day-to-day life than I let on. She tried to convince me to give in to them because promiscuous sex mirrors Christ's love for us in the Eucharist, or something. (She hasn't at any point in her life been Catholic.) She also told me that 'sex is every young religious person's introduction to moral relativism' and that if I want to have sex I'll eventually find a way to justify it to myself, in a context that made it clear that she expected me to find this reassuring somehow.
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