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Kalwejt
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« on: August 25, 2009, 06:56:14 AM »

Stauffenberg and Co would be killed too. The Nazi have the total control over the country and the Stauffenberg Group haven't a chance to get the power. Göring will be chancellor and the war continue. Maybe the war ends 3 month earlier, but i don't think so.

The bad thing is because Hitler is dead, many people will say: "When this traitors don't kill Hitler we win the war".  It's better Stauffenberg haven't success to blow up Hitler.

I agree that war would continue, as Allies were not interested (maybe Churchill in some degree, but absolulety not Roosevelt or Stalin) in anything less than unconditional surrender.

And that was actually what the world needed.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 05:00:05 PM »

Stauffenberg don't change the histoy when Hitler dies, maybe a tiny little bit. The only  assassination attempt, witch has changes to work was 1939 from Georg Elser http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Elser

When Hitler dies 1939, then all the history will be different. Göring would  make a complete other strategy in the war.

Goering was not really interested in war. He preffered a peace - of course a peace with him on the top position, so he can enjoy his life and power. I'm sure Goering would try to make a peace with France and Great Britian as soon as he could and not go against USSR.

Sources tell us that Goering was relucant about the war, was he loyal that's diffrent matter.
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2009, 08:45:39 PM »

Goebbels was overrated. He don't have the importance in the leadership of the NSDAP. He was only loud and full of hate.

True. Goebbels position depended solely on Hitler. Unlike Goering, Himmler or Bormann, he had nobody behind him
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2009, 08:48:09 PM »

Göring seizes power and makes peace.

I had a timeline about it somewhere.

Goering surely would like to strenght Germany position and even enlarge, but he'd never go too far. He wanted a power and realized war is a threat for power.

Not that I like him. He was unpleasent man after all. I know this is irrevelant, but when he became Prussian Prime Minister in 1933, he personally ordered to replace a guillotine (used in Prussia, with Berlin exception) with hand axe and block "a German axe", he called, and personally designed an uniform for an executioner.

What a douche.

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