Is there any former POTUS, living or dead, who wouldn't be appalled by Trump?
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #50 on: August 01, 2017, 12:10:57 AM »

Probably like-minded authoritarians, such as Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, and, to a lesser extent, Ronald Reagan.
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« Reply #51 on: August 01, 2017, 01:58:21 AM »

Probably like-minded authoritarians, such as Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, and, to a lesser extent, Ronald Reagan.

LBJ had too much respect for actually reading the rules and methodically reading people to withstand someone so random like Trump.

Also, no F&*(ing way the guy who taught Mexican immigrants English would think highly of Trump.
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« Reply #52 on: August 01, 2017, 02:05:34 AM »
« Edited: August 01, 2017, 02:09:54 AM by AtorBoltox »

Probably like-minded authoritarians, such as Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, and, to a lesser extent, Ronald Reagan.
Do you know anything about Wilson? He'd loathe Trump both for his anti intellectualism and isolationist sentiments
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« Reply #53 on: August 01, 2017, 07:27:02 AM »

I sometimes hate these poles because they inevitably apply the 18th or 19th century values of the presidents at the time. In which case of course they're going to be appalled by the fact that blacks and women are property, that gays aren't literally subject to the death penalty, and that the propertied classes actually don't monopolize the vote. They probably be all freaked out buy television radio and airplanes as well. What's your point?

I say ask the question under the presumption that whomever is raised from the dead to make these observations and judgements is given a couple months of observation historical literature to acclimate themselves to the societal technological changes that have occurred since they were president so at least they can wrap their head around the concepts even if they don't agree with them from their nineteenth-century viewpoint. Then ask the relevant questions

That was totally pedantic on my part, but something that's always gnawed at me. Thank you for listening.

You're just pointing out that the question as posed is a null question. It needs significant elaboration before it can become meaningful. People are doing that elbaoration on their own instinctively, but doing it differently, which is part of where the disagreement is coming from.
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« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2017, 02:28:10 PM »

Probably like-minded authoritarians, such as Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, and, to a lesser extent, Ronald Reagan.

LBJ had too much respect for actually reading the rules and methodically reading people to withstand someone so random like Trump.

Also, no F&*(ing way the guy who taught Mexican immigrants English would think highly of Trump.

... Johnson was a nationalist in all but name, and he did what he did for political purposes. He wasn't some "morally superior" modern Democrat.
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« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2017, 03:52:06 PM »

Nixon was crooked but he was still statesmanlike at least outwardly. He would have had no time for a blowhard like Trump.
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« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2017, 11:23:17 AM »

Nixon didn't even like Reagan. He would've despised Trump.

Yeah, Nixon thought Reagan was dumb as hell. He would hate Trump for the same reasons.

Ironically, I think Nixon would be fond of Obama though.
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