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tpfkaw
wormyguy
Junior Chimp
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E: -0.58, S: 1.65

« on: January 04, 2011, 08:39:21 AM »

The "liberals" of the 19th century would be considered conservatives today, and not merely conservatives, but very right-wing conservatives.

Washington - Constitution Party
Adams - ""
Jefferson - Libertarian Party
Madison - ""
Monroe - ""
Quincy Adams - Constitution Party
Jackson - Republican
Van Buren - ""
William Henry Harrison - ""
John Tyler - ""
James Polk - ""
Zachary Taylor - ""
Millard Fillmore - would not be welcome in any modern party, likely Republican or Constitution
Franklin Pierce - Republican
James Buchanan - ""
Abraham Lincoln - ""
Andrew Johnson - ""
Ulysses S. Grant - ""
Rutherford B. Hayes - ""
James Garfield - ""
Chester A. Arthur - ""
Grover Cleveland - ""
Benjamin Harrison - ""
William McKinley - ""
Theodore Roosevelt - Democrat, but could be an Olympia Snowe/Mike Castle-style Republican.
William Howard Taft - Republican
Woodrow Wilson - Democrat
Warren G. Harding - Republican or third-party
Calvin Coolidge - Republican or third-party
Herbert Hoover - independent or third-party
Franklin Roosevelt - Democrat
Harry Truman - Democrat or moderate Republican
Dwight Eisenhower - Republican (taking into account background)
John F. Kennedy - Democrat (ditto)
Lyndon Johnson - Democrat
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tpfkaw
wormyguy
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,118
United States


Political Matrix
E: -0.58, S: 1.65

« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2011, 08:58:56 AM »
« Edited: January 04, 2011, 09:01:56 AM by Commieguy »

The "liberals" of the 19th century would be considered conservatives today, and not merely conservatives, but very right-wing conservatives.

Don't take into consideration any of the historically determined elements of their points of view - if you do, every President until Lyndon Johnson is a segregationist. I want you to instead privilege the broad trend of their views and sentiments and how those might fit into a modern historical context.

You have to look at their views exactly as they were at the time.  Otherwise your question makes no sense.  I'm assuming none of them are doing anything that would be illegal today (like slaveholding) and nothing else.  Most of them had opportunities to become radical socialists during their lifetimes, and chose not to, nor governed in that fashion, so it could be surmised that they would not be "liberals" in a modern sense.  Try to ease back on the hackery, too.  Grant a segregationist?  Teddy Roosevelt?  Coolidge?  Ike?!?  Kennedy?!?  LBJ was more racist on a personal level than 6 of the previous 7 presidents.
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tpfkaw
wormyguy
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,118
United States


Political Matrix
E: -0.58, S: 1.65

« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2011, 09:16:55 AM »

Well, someone of LBJ's background would certainly be more racist than the average today.  I don't think there's really an epidemic of racism among Kansans.

In any case, that's shifting the goalposts, because that wasn't what you were asking, and it's also not a question that makes any sense, as you can find people of all backgrounds in all political parties and ideologies.
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tpfkaw
wormyguy
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,118
United States


Political Matrix
E: -0.58, S: 1.65

« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2011, 09:33:59 AM »

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tpfkaw
wormyguy
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,118
United States


Political Matrix
E: -0.58, S: 1.65

« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2011, 09:42:52 AM »

Most of them had opportunities to become radical socialists during their lifetimes, and chose not to, nor governed in that fashion, so it could be surmised that they would not be "liberals" in a modern sense.
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