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Emperor Charles V
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« on: April 29, 2013, 08:28:07 PM »
« edited: April 29, 2013, 08:30:29 PM by Emperor Charles V »

1964:

The dreaded (but unexciting) rematch



Richard Nixon / Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat)
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Emperor Charles V
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 10:08:41 PM »

In my TL (which I will continue tomorrow), Kennedy in a last minute decision decides to veto the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for disagreeing with some of it's provisions. The congress quickly overrides the veto. Although Kennedy vetoes the bill because he was unhappy with the republicans additions to it, not because he is a racist, Kennedy gets the false impression of being considered a racist. As a result, the Republicans seize the opportunity to become the party of civil rights as they cast aside candidates who were opposed to the Civil Rights Act such as Senator Goldwater. Instead, the Republicans renominate Richard Nixon who condemns Kennedy for vetoing the Civil Rights Act. Nixon manages to win the election in a landslide.

I took this twist to a popular alternate history prompt because of all the Kennedy Lives TLs I read, none show him vetoing Civil Rights and I figured I was up to the challenge...
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Emperor Charles V
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2013, 04:47:55 PM »

I think it's very unlikely Kennedy would run against Goldwater in 1964. I think the Republicans would have either nominated Nixon for a rematch or Nelson Rockefeller because those two in my opinion probably would be the only ones with a chance to make Kennedy a one term president.
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Emperor Charles V
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2013, 06:08:50 PM »


There's no way Nixon runs in 1964.  After his losses in 1960 and 1962, he needed to recharge his political strength. It wasn't just Democratic strength that caused him to forgo a run.  While Rockefeller no doubt would have run as he did, the same factors that caused him to lose to Goldwater, his divorce and quick remarriage to a much younger woman would cause problems.  Goldwater won the nomination because he was the sole conservative candidate facing multiple moderate Republicans who divided the field (Lodge, Rockefeller, and Scranton).  Much as the Republicans in 2012 had problems selecting an anti-Romney, in 1964 they had problems selecting an anti-Goldwater.  There's nothing in your point of divergence that alters any of that.

Good point. However, if Nixon wins the election of governor of California in 1962 and somehow this causes Kennedy to survive, he may be up for the election of 1964.

I think if Nixon won in '62 and campaigned harder in '64 than he did in '60, I think he can narrowly beat Kennedy. He still has to pick a good running mate and figure out how to exploit Kennedy's weaknesses. Also, he has to perform well in the debates because he knows that they were his downfall four years earlier.

How about Nixon / Rockefeller vs. Kennedy / Johnson?
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