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Lunar
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« on: January 21, 2009, 10:30:37 AM »

I think you forgot to include the part of that article that says this:

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and the parts that recommend alternative solutions
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2167542/posts


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Lunar
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2009, 11:22:49 AM »

I oppose gun control too, but don't you think it's intellectually dishonest to avoid quoting the part of the article that says knife incidents are "incredible rare?"
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 11:30:02 AM »
« Edited: January 21, 2009, 11:31:53 AM by Lunar »

But making guns illegal isn't going to stop that kind of thing.

     The problem with making guns illegal has always been that the guy who wants to rob the 7/11 will manage to get one anyway.

That's more true in the United States than the UK.  Also, not everyone who wants to rob the cornerstore has easy access to the illegal arms black market.

I say this as an opponent to gun control Tongue  You have to make better arguments or I'm going to keep being a devil's advocate.
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Lunar
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2009, 05:13:40 AM »
« Edited: January 22, 2009, 05:19:17 AM by Lunar »

I oppose gun control too, but don't you think it's intellectually dishonest to avoid quoting the part of the article that says knife incidents are "incredible rare?"
It's actually illegal to post entire articles in forums (unless they are short) and blogs and what have you.  I normally only keep the first several paragraphs.  (and did something happen to the link in my OP or did I forget it?)

First of all,  I doubt you as a libertarian really care about posting an article in full in a message board. 

Secondly, IF YOU WERE SO CONCERNED ABOUT ILLEGALITY, YOU WOULD HAVE LINKED TO THE ARTICLE IN QUESTION.  No?  Or is this a faux-attempt to care about the "internet law" in order to skirt your intellectual responsibilities?  I had to Google it to find the Freep article that linked to another article to find the actual source.  Surely you'd be more legal to provide a link to the original source?

Third, despite your legal statement of a wikipedia article that apparently governs the rules of FreeRepublic, FreeRepublic still felt fit to post the article in its entirety.
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Lunar
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2009, 05:25:24 AM »
« Edited: January 22, 2009, 05:30:51 AM by Lunar »

Sorry if that sounds angry, but I don't like threads that apparently dishonestly omit key facts in their attempts to spin articles, especially if they're Ayn Rand Junior Fan Club threads.  Other people on the forum are around to criticize the stupidity of other articles, but I gotta call them out when I see thems that aren't already calleds out.
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2009, 01:18:03 PM »

Ok, but why does Free Republic post the entire article still despite being sued?

I believe you forgot it (you do usually include a link).  It just seemed sketchy to not include key passages and a link to the original article.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2009, 04:04:37 PM »

I think it's most important to note that gun control works very differently in countries that already have a lot of guns and countries that do not possess very large land borders that a cartel operates in.

I don't support England's gun control, but as a low-crime country, it's not a good case example for gun-rights activists. 
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