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« Reply #1400 on: June 09, 2017, 07:12:41 AM »

Canterbury's probably the prime case where a Labour steal was enabled by the disintegration of the LD vote--back in 1997, the opposition was split...
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« Reply #1401 on: June 09, 2017, 07:27:11 AM »

So, FPTP system almost saved Tory majority in Scotland of all places...
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« Reply #1402 on: June 09, 2017, 07:28:36 AM »

Theresa May gained 2,351,291 (9th biggest vote gain UK history)
Jeremy Corbyn gained 3,511,379 (4th biggest gain ever)





Which, given historical changes of population, is more or less just an interesting trivia picture.

It's amusing, though, Churchill lost the PV in all of three elections he contested, and still won one.
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« Reply #1403 on: June 09, 2017, 07:40:35 AM »

So basically a big Tory fail by losing seats and a Faustian/poison kiss deal with the DUP. Lol, #winning
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« Reply #1404 on: June 09, 2017, 07:45:39 AM »

"Democratic Unionist sources have told The Guardian that one possible sweetener fro the party from Theresa May and the Tories is the possible elevation of Peter Robinson to the House of Lords."
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« Reply #1405 on: June 09, 2017, 08:06:12 AM »

"Democratic Unionist sources have told The Guardian that one possible sweetener fro the party from Theresa May and the Tories is the possible elevation of Peter Robinson to the House of Lords."

His wife was the one with the toyboy right?
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« Reply #1406 on: June 09, 2017, 08:14:51 AM »

Can somebody explain to me how Angus Robertson lost a seat he had held since 2001? Just seems so odd. Yes, it was a bad night for the SNP...compared to two years ago. But overall this is still their 2nd best Westminster result by far and the party seems to remain relatively popular.
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« Reply #1407 on: June 09, 2017, 08:40:58 AM »

Can somebody explain to me how Angus Robertson lost a seat he had held since 2001? Just seems so odd. Yes, it was a bad night for the SNP...compared to two years ago. But overall this is still their 2nd best Westminster result by far and the party seems to remain relatively popular.

Robertson performed about the same as he did pre-2015, but the anti-SNP vote wasn't split this time and returned to their traditional Tory allegiance for that seat.
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« Reply #1408 on: June 09, 2017, 08:42:04 AM »

Two key points about the DUP:

- They aren't keen on austerity
- They aren't keen on a Hard Brexit (well, their leader Arlene Foster isn't anyway)
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« Reply #1409 on: June 09, 2017, 09:04:09 AM »

Its quite amusing that after one of the big last minute attacks the Tories made on Corbyn the whole "HE'S FRIENDS WITH TERRORISTS, HE MET GERRY ADAMS IN THE 80S" thing; they now will be supported by the DUP who once, eh, had links to Loyalist paramilitaries.  Just one of those funny things...
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« Reply #1410 on: June 09, 2017, 09:21:45 AM »

I predicted 319 Tory seats + DUP support creating a minority Tory government. So happy I got the big picture right. I don't know where is this deal UKIP voters going to Lab coming. UKIP's collapse saved Tory as*es & a Lab outright majority. As every poll showed that UKIP votes went majorly to Tories & saved May.

This was a story of Corbyn & the young people. Not just landslide margin, but also huge youth turnout in addition. Most people modeled predictions on a 40-50 or at best 60% turnout of 18-24, but some polls show 72% of 18-24 voted, even higher than the average. Anywhere near that number is flat out gigantic.

And this election showed that Jeremy Corbyn is Labour. His vision is the Labour party of the future & Jeremy Corbyn is the future of UK.Theresa May will form an unstable government with DUP & when UK will again go to poll in 3 or 5 years time, the number of millennials will increase hugely (will come into the voting age) & older Tory voters will die off.

Good luck Tories !

Yesterday, a generation woke and roared at last. It took dispiriting result after dispiriting result but the numbers suggest we’ve finally been galvanised: the turnout among 18- to 24-year-olds is being estimated at 72 per cent.


http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/how-britains-youth-vote-general-election-swung-with-record-numbers-of-young-voters-a3561186.html
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« Reply #1411 on: June 09, 2017, 09:30:53 AM »

"Democratic Unionist sources have told The Guardian that one possible sweetener fro the party from Theresa May and the Tories is the possible elevation of Peter Robinson to the House of Lords."

That's their sweetner?!
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« Reply #1412 on: June 09, 2017, 09:57:35 AM »

Some of the swings in the south are... unreal.  Like we've all talked about Canterbury - but there's a bunch of other seats with similar increases.  Hove - Tory from until time began most likely until 1997, they regained it from Labour in 2010 before it went back to Labour in 2015) now has a 20,000 majority with a 15% swing from the Conservatives to Labour.  Brighton Kemptown, Tory since 2010 and before 1997 it was only Labour between 1964 and 1970: 10,000 Labour majority, swing of over 10% to Labour.  Portsmouth South - never Labour, Liberal Democrat from 1997 to 2015, Labour's share of the vote is up 20% and there's a 10% swing to Labour there as well.  Its not even just "metropolitan" areas where this is the case but even the rock-solid safe Labour seats - Labour got 17,000 votes of the Isle of bloody Wight - collectively, they and the Greens were only 10,000 votes behind the Tories (in a place that voted quite heavily to leave the EU).  That's the real interesting part of this election in my eyes...
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« Reply #1413 on: June 09, 2017, 10:08:24 AM »

Some of the swings in the south are... unreal.  Like we've all talked about Canterbury - but there's a bunch of other seats with similar increases.  Hove - Tory from until time began most likely until 1997, they regained it from Labour in 2010 before it went back to Labour in 2015) now has a 20,000 majority with a 15% swing from the Conservatives to Labour.  Brighton Kemptown, Tory since 2010 and before 1997 it was only Labour between 1964 and 1970: 10,000 Labour majority, swing of over 10% to Labour.  Portsmouth South - never Labour, Liberal Democrat from 1997 to 2015, Labour's share of the vote is up 20% and there's a 10% swing to Labour there as well.  Its not even just "metropolitan" areas where this is the case but even the rock-solid safe Labour seats - Labour got 17,000 votes of the Isle of bloody Wight - collectively, they and the Greens were only 10,000 votes behind the Tories (in a place that voted quite heavily to leave the EU).  That's the real interesting part of this election in my eyes...

Might be because I'm studying network data anaysis, but do you think this might be because this region is now very much part of a London political consciousness that is more exposed to London Labour issues such as housing shortages, etc. (I imagine some migrated from London)? Or is increased turnout of previouslly disillusioned voters?

Also, what kind of results did Labour get in Essex.
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« Reply #1414 on: June 09, 2017, 10:26:08 AM »
« Edited: June 09, 2017, 12:10:30 PM by parochial boy »

Some of the swings in the south are... unreal.  Like we've all talked about Canterbury - but there's a bunch of other seats with similar increases.  Hove - Tory from until time began most likely until 1997, they regained it from Labour in 2010 before it went back to Labour in 2015) now has a 20,000 majority with a 15% swing from the Conservatives to Labour.  Brighton Kemptown, Tory since 2010 and before 1997 it was only Labour between 1964 and 1970: 10,000 Labour majority, swing of over 10% to Labour.  Portsmouth South - never Labour, Liberal Democrat from 1997 to 2015, Labour's share of the vote is up 20% and there's a 10% swing to Labour there as well.  Its not even just "metropolitan" areas where this is the case but even the rock-solid safe Labour seats - Labour got 17,000 votes of the Isle of bloody Wight - collectively, they and the Greens were only 10,000 votes behind the Tories (in a place that voted quite heavily to leave the EU).  That's the real interesting part of this election in my eyes...

Might be because I'm studying network data anaysis, but do you think this might be because this region is now very much part of a London political consciousness that is more exposed to London Labour issues such as housing shortages, etc. (I imagine some migrated from London)? Or is increased turnout of previouslly disillusioned voters?

Also, what kind of results did Labour get in Essex.

It kind of depends where you are talking about. Just thinking about some areas I am familiar with, the swings along the Sussex coast (from Brighton to Worthing, even Chichester) are really an extended Brighton effect, and Brighton is knows as "London-on-Sea", has had some pretty major demographic trends in recent years, which are now beginning to knock across the region.

Some of the big swings in South Hampshire/Isle of Wight are a little harder to explain, it is very much a different economic and cultural world to London. Southampton Test and Portsmouth South obviously have the unis, IoW itself has something of a counter-cultural element to it (an, even if he wasn't standing, a rather notorious incumbent). Places like Fareham, are pretty middling suburban sprawl, and quite socially conservative, so it is quiet surprising that they swung Labour at all, at a guess I would say that the terrible transport infrastructure and promises to nationalise the train would have helped.

So I suspect London issues and political culture contributed in lots of the South East, but not all of it, especially in traditional London Commuter areas like Runnymede or Windsor. Less so in Essex and Medway, which both trended heavily Tory.

And to add to that, the swings in the West Country were outrageous too, possibly traditional anti-Tory Lib Dem voters coming into the Labour fold?
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« Reply #1415 on: June 09, 2017, 10:27:46 AM »

Hmm, looking at the Cornwall results - specifically St. Ives and Camborne and Redruth, which are two Con marginals now. In St. Ives, the LibDems almost won, and in Camborne and Redruth, Labour almost won. Would a micro-electoral alliance between Labour and the Lib Dems work in these two seats?
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« Reply #1416 on: June 09, 2017, 10:30:42 AM »

If this was a freaking so-called supposed centrist or a mild conservative instead of Corbyn, can you imagine the hype? The guy with an army of young people & passionate supporters bringing record youth turnout going against the media, elites, his own party to prove he is the new face of his party & deservedly.

Today was Corbyn's momentum. Young people didn't just tweet, they showed up to the polls in gigantic numbers to back Corbyn. The back-benched MP, ridiculed by everyone, dismissed as not being credible, castigated by his own party leaders has not led Labour to a 29 seat gain with more than 11% gain in vote share.

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« Reply #1417 on: June 09, 2017, 10:41:41 AM »

  Is there a handy list of the closest results, say under 4% victory margin?
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« Reply #1418 on: June 09, 2017, 10:48:30 AM »

Seats with majorities under 100

Fife North East (SNP) 2

Perth & Perthshire North (SNP) 21

Dudley North (LAB) 22

Newcastle-under-Lyme (LAB) 30

Southampton Itchen (CON) 31

Richmond Park (CON) 45

Crewe & Nantwich (LAB) 48

Glasgow South West (SNP) 60

Glasgow East (SNP) 75

Arfon (Plaid Cymru) 92

Kensington will certainly be on this list when it declares.
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« Reply #1419 on: June 09, 2017, 10:57:19 AM »

Some of the swings in the south are... unreal.  Like we've all talked about Canterbury - but there's a bunch of other seats with similar increases.  Hove - Tory from until time began most likely until 1997, they regained it from Labour in 2010 before it went back to Labour in 2015) now has a 20,000 majority with a 15% swing from the Conservatives to Labour.  Brighton Kemptown, Tory since 2010 and before 1997 it was only Labour between 1964 and 1970: 10,000 Labour majority, swing of over 10% to Labour.  Portsmouth South - never Labour, Liberal Democrat from 1997 to 2015, Labour's share of the vote is up 20% and there's a 10% swing to Labour there as well.  Its not even just "metropolitan" areas where this is the case but even the rock-solid safe Labour seats - Labour got 17,000 votes of the Isle of bloody Wight - collectively, they and the Greens were only 10,000 votes behind the Tories (in a place that voted quite heavily to leave the EU).  That's the real interesting part of this election in my eyes...

Well in all the really extreme cases these are university constituencies. And for the first time ever really the student vote was mobilised to its actual potential. Which immediately - through sheer weight of numbers - renders the entire previous political history of such places completely irrelevant.

Other than that I think what you saw in many cases was a return from Labour to the sort of performances that it 'ought' to have; recent Labour GE campaigns have really bombed horrifically (like historically bad performances) in much of the south of England. Though its interesting that this was the sort of campaign to crack that problem.
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« Reply #1420 on: June 09, 2017, 11:03:13 AM »

So many of Labour's fundamental problems remain - in particular the inability to win back support from the often volatile Lab/Con swing voters in the Midlands who are legion - but it isn't as if anyone expected them to be fixed for this election. It may be easier now to focus on what might be done to sort that out; particularly as now doing so would = power pretty much immediately.
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« Reply #1421 on: June 09, 2017, 11:40:15 AM »

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« Reply #1422 on: June 09, 2017, 11:57:57 AM »

So basically the balance of power in the U.K. is now held by the Ulster Volunteer Force because the PIRA won't take their seats

Bone up on your Troubles history, folks
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« Reply #1423 on: June 09, 2017, 12:08:34 PM »
« Edited: June 09, 2017, 12:11:05 PM by Shameless Bernie Hack »

Two key points about the DUP:

- They aren't keen on austerity
- They aren't keen on a Hard Brexit (well, their leader Arlene Foster isn't anyway)

This is going to sound stupid/conspiratorial, but how worried should the world be that the Gov't is going to rest on a party that doesn't accept the Good Friday agreement?




So basically the balance of power in the U.K. is now held by the Ulster Volunteer Force because the PIRA won't take their seats

Bone up on your Troubles history, folks

Exactly. The degree to which this election which was supposed to be about Brexit and ended up being about austerity actually ended up with the balance of power hinging on the f[inks]ing Irish Question is dumbfounding.
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« Reply #1424 on: June 09, 2017, 12:10:49 PM »

So Scottish independence is dead?



God, I hope so...my hope for this election was that it would hurt the SNP and their quest for independence (check) and push for a "soft" Brexit (possible).
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