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Dr. Arch
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« on: July 30, 2016, 12:29:47 PM »

If a country brings in many low level immigrants, and then gives them more in benefits than they pay in taxes, how can this be sustainable longer term?

Somebody explain how this can be a benefit to the citizens of the USA.
If letting in tens of thousands of low income individuals and then later giving them free health care insurance, education, roads and other benefits, how is this not "taking" from other citizens of the USA who already live here? I'm all for high-skilled immigrants, but isn't this getting insane when politicians are willing to sell out the country for votes?
Oh boy...

1. Clinton does not support open borders
2. There's no welfare state in the US
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2016, 12:49:14 PM »

I like how the Hillary fans won't even respond to you, OP. They can't argue with the truth.

Hillary 100% supports open borders. 550% increase in "refugees" and full amnesty in 100 days. That's open borders and there's no way to ignore that. Disaster!

But we did or is your reading comprehension as bad as your reasoning?
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2016, 12:59:27 PM »

I like how the Hillary fans won't even respond to you, OP. They can't argue with the truth.

Hillary 100% supports open borders. 550% increase in "refugees" and full amnesty in 100 days. That's open borders and there's no way to ignore that. Disaster!

But we did or is your reading comprehension as bad as your reasoning?

See, just ad hominem. Respond to the facts I presented or just be quiet.

No, it's no an ad hominem. I presented a response by quoting Centrist above, and you just ignored it. You do not understand what "open borders" means or what Hillary is for. Go look at her campaign page, quote it if you find open borders, and get back to us.

Just throwing words and calling them facts doesn't work. Know what you're talking about or be quiet.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2016, 01:11:39 PM »

I like how the Hillary fans won't even respond to you, OP. They can't argue with the truth.

Hillary 100% supports open borders. 550% increase in "refugees" and full amnesty in 100 days. That's open borders and there's no way to ignore that. Disaster!

But we did or is your reading comprehension as bad as your reasoning?

See, just ad hominem. Respond to the facts I presented or just be quiet.

No, it's no an ad hominem. I presented a response by quoting Centrist above, and you just ignored it. You do not understand what "open borders" means or what Hillary is for. Go look at her campaign page, quote it if you find open borders, and get back to us.

Just throwing words and calling them facts doesn't work. Know what you're talking about or be quiet.

Respond to the facts I presented. One more try:

1. Hillary wants 550% increase in "refugees"
2. Hillary wants to grant full amnesty in 100 days.

And this which isn't confirmed but is 99% likely:

3. She will continue Obama's catch and release and shipping of "refugees" in from Central America.



1. Hillary wants a 550% increase in the refugees being taken in from Syria, and not all refugees as your disingenuous statement tries to put forward. Also, 550% is used instead of 65,000 over 10,000 because it sounds more inflated. Percentages are relative.

2. Hillary vowed to push for "comprehensive immigration reform" within the first 100 days, which doesn't necessarily mean amnesty. But, EVEN IF IT DID, it wouldn't have to do with refugees, but rather those 11m that have been here contributing to the economy for a long time. Reagan did it; Bush did it. Not to mention a pathway to citizenship is not amnesty.

3. "And this which isn't confirmed." You literally say it's not a fact, but assert it as one.
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