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Huckleberry Finn
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« on: April 26, 2004, 04:13:51 PM »

In 2000 election Libertarian Party’s candidate Harry Browne got only 0,36 percent of vote. In 2000 Bush campaigned as moderate. During his presidency Bush has practised socially conservative politics (for example on gay marriage issue) and increased government’s spending. There should be at least some disappointed Libertarian-Republican voters.  Libertarian candidate seems to be most obvious choice for them.  

Also. Kerry is more liberal than Gore. It obvious that Libertarians will get some votes from socially liberal, but fiscally conservative/moderate Democrats who can't vote neither Kerry nor Bush.

I think that Libertarians are going to get more votes this time than in 2000, say 1-1,5 %. What you think?

I couldn't find name of their 2004 candidate in their website. Browne again?

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2004, 04:17:03 PM »

browne says he will not run.  small-government types may have to compete with Michael Petrouka for votes, anyway.  My prediction:  less than one percent.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2004, 04:22:51 PM »

The libertarians will be to Bush in Ohio in 2004 as the greens were to Gore in Florida in 2000.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2004, 04:25:46 PM »

the libertarians will be of no factor.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2004, 05:32:29 PM »

In 2000 election Libertarian Party’s candidate Harry Browne got only 0,36 percent of vote. In 2000 Bush campaigned as moderate. During his presidency Bush has practised socially conservative politics (for example on gay marriage issue) and increased government’s spending. There should be at least some disappointed Libertarian-Republican voters.  Libertarian candidate seems to be most obvious choice for them.  

Also. Kerry is more liberal than Gore. It obvious that Libertarians will get some votes from socially liberal, but fiscally conservative/moderate Democrats who can't vote neither Kerry nor Bush.

I think that Libertarians are going to get more votes this time than in 2000, say 1-1,5 %. What you think?

I couldn't find name of their 2004 candidate in their website. Browne again?

http://www.lp.org/


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1.5% for the Libertarians.... I hope you are right!
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2004, 05:34:50 PM »

i doubt libertarians will eat into the republican vote.  all libertarians that i know, dont think highly of the republican party, or any party for that matter.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2004, 05:37:55 PM »

Third parties do the best when the election seems to be unimportant.  Note the strong Green presence in states where the outcome was certain in 2000.  With such a highly contested election I don't see the Libertarians being as strong.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2004, 06:36:27 PM »


The Libertarians will get about 0.5% of the vote.  The couldn't get above 0.5% even when they had an actual Congressman running for them.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2004, 07:36:43 PM »
« Edited: April 26, 2004, 08:09:24 PM by The Vorlon »

all libertarians that i know, dont think highly of the republican party..

You got that right... Smiley

Other than the crushing taxes, out of control spending, orwellian government intrusion into our lives, and massive violations of civil rights they're an ok party....
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2004, 07:56:40 PM »

0.63%
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2004, 04:57:36 PM »

Only time the Libertarians broke 1% was when Anderson got 7% in 1980 -- Edward Clark picked up 1.06% of the vote.  

I doubt you'll see a lot of people swing to Nolan (the likely nominee), from Bush. It may take away some votes, but it won't cost him any states.
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2004, 05:56:41 PM »

Only time the Libertarians broke 1% was when Anderson got 7% in 1980 -- Edward Clark picked up 1.06% of the vote.  

I doubt you'll see a lot of people swing to Nolan (the likely nominee), from Bush. It may take away some votes, but it won't cost him any states.

Go John Anderson.  You'd like him too Nation.   Wink
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2004, 07:53:28 PM »

If the libs play their cards right they could sway Ohio to Kerry.  By the end of this year's appropriations process, there will be a lot of disillusioned conservatives looking for a pro-small government, fiscally reponsible candidate.  They will find that candidate in Peroutka in the south and west, and the Libertarian in the North and mid-West.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2004, 09:27:03 PM »

the libertarians will be of no factor.

In a close election every third party could affect the results.
In 2000 the libertarian vote may have cost George Bush more states then Nader cost Gore.  In 3 states the Libertarian vote was greatrer than the Gore margin of victory:
              Gore margin      Libertarian vote
New Mexico          366                 2058
Wisconsin          5,708                 6640
Oregon              6,765                 7447



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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2004, 11:04:04 PM »

Only time the Libertarians broke 1% was when Anderson got 7% in 1980 -- Edward Clark picked up 1.06% of the vote.  

I doubt you'll see a lot of people swing to Nolan (the likely nominee), from Bush. It may take away some votes, but it won't cost him any states.

Go John Anderson.  You'd like him too Nation.   Wink

Oh, I love Anderson. Boss Tweed likes him even more.
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