Trump releases detailed immigration policy paper

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More proof that Donald Trump is a LYING IDIOT!

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http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/05/actually-immigration-can-create-jobs/391997/

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/

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http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/

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More reason to support the almighty Trump. All these bluthering GOP fools are upset that the guy they've called an "idiot" time after time is outlining the most sensible and well reasoned policy in all the field.

Not only the front runner but objectively the best candidate. Victory here we come!

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More proof that Donald Trump is a LYING IDIOT!

Panic mode. Flipping out like this is not going to help your boy Jeb.

Yes, I am in panic mode. Donald Trump hates freedom. he hates capitalism. He hates immigrants. He hates women. He hates America. He is dumb, incompetent, and clueless on the economy and foreign policy. He is angry, bitter, and divisive. His supporters are not well read. Yet, he leads in public opinion polls and makes all Republicans look awful.

With that being said, I will continue to speak out against his candidacy and correct the record when the man lies. I would encourage all Republicans to do the same.

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More proof that Donald Trump is a LYING IDIOT!

Panic mode. Flipping out like this is not going to help your boy Jeb.

Yes, I am in panic mode. Donald Trump hates freedom. he hates capitalism. He hates immigrants. He hates women. He hates America. He is dumb, incompetent, and clueless on the economy and foreign policy. He is angry, bitter, and divisive. His supporters are not well read. Yet, he leads in public opinion polls and makes all Republicans look awful.  

From the perspective of someone on the other side of the isle (way on the other side), your description applies equally well to all the Republican candidates, not just Trump.

I don't believe that is fair. The fact of the matter is, the Democratic Party is the party that has become out of touch with ordinary Americans. The Democrats like to talk about how they want to help the poor and punish the rich, but the reality is that today, under Barack Obama, the rich are actually doing just fine - it's the middle class who are squeezed and the poor who are worse off today than they were in 2009. The poverty rate is at a 50 year high today, they can't get ahead because the administration has implemented policies that have hurt job growth, especially for people seeking jobs in small businesses. Frankly, the Democratic Party has declared war on capitalism. Donald Trump hates capitalism more than most Democrats, and that's really saying something because the left hates capitalism. Clearly, President Obama is also clueless on foreign policy and the economy, as is Hillary Clinton. Obama and Clinton don't really care about women, they just want to scare them into the voting booth to help their ideological agenda. They believe by promising women free contraception, they'll win votes. It's disgusting how the Democrats believe women are stupid, it's just as bad as Trump quite frankly. Just as there are stupid men who like handouts, there are stupid women like Sandra Fluke who want free stuff, but the majority of women in this country are hard working and bright, they deserve better than the Democratic Party.

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More proof that Donald Trump is a LYING IDIOT!

Panic mode. Flipping out like this is not going to help your boy Jeb.

Yes, I am in panic mode. Donald Trump hates freedom. he hates capitalism. He hates immigrants. He hates women. He hates America. He is dumb, incompetent, and clueless on the economy and foreign policy. He is angry, bitter, and divisive. His supporters are not well read. Yet, he leads in public opinion polls and makes all Republicans look awful.

With that being said, I will continue to speak out against his candidacy and correct the record when the man lies. I would encourage all Republicans to do the same.

Calm down.

Nah, he should be panicking.

Watching Trump win over the heart & soul of the Republican Party while simultaneously putting the final nail in the coffin on the Bush-Rove legacy was a nightmare scenario he couldn't have possibly imagined just two months ago. 

I appreciate your'e comments and respect the views you hold.

But in the end, this campaign can't be about George W. Bush. Bush got some things right, some things he got wrong. This campaign has to be about who can reverse Obama's failed policies, who can put in place policies that can foster economic growth, and who can conduct a foreign policy that protects our national security interests. Donald Trump has lowered the level of dialogue in this campaign, and the only policy paper he's put out is filled with lies. Unfortunately, there are folks in both political parties who are not well read - Trump and Clinton supporters prove this each and everyday. 

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This is more detailed than anything Romney put out in the 6 years he ran for President.

Mitt Romney never lied about illegal immigration to my knowledge though.

Look, we need a temporary worker program, we need a pathway to legal status, we need employment verification, and we should get rid of sanctuary cities. The only person who should be deported is Melania Trump because she contributes nothing to American society. Seriously though, this has been used as an issue for people like Ted Cruz who need to rely on winning the votes of the scared and ignorant, and it's been used by the Democrats to try and win over immigrants by giving them gifts.

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Seeing dudabides rage about poor Jebby  and the Don makes me smile inside.

Here is the fundamental problem. I support Jeb Bush, yes, but I have my own views as well. I am very concerned about the direction this nation is headed in. I am a strong proponent of free markets and capitalism. What we have today is quasi-capitalism, we need to return to capitalism. Donald Trump would move us further away from that goal.

To be perfectly honest, "libertarianrepublican" your'e a fraud. Anyone who supports individual liberty and libertarian principles can't support or defend someone who is the king of corporate welfare and who has wanted to take away property rights.

This is more detailed than anything Romney put out in the 6 years he ran for President.

Mitt Romney never lied about illegal immigration to my knowledge though.

Look, we need a temporary worker program, we need a pathway to legal status, we need employment verification, and we should get rid of sanctuary cities. The only person who should be deported is Melania Trump because she contributes nothing to American society. Seriously though, this has been used as an issue for people like Ted Cruz who need to rely on winning the votes of the scared and ignorant, and it's been used by the Democrats to try and win over immigrants by giving them gifts.

I'm begging to think that you are actually Jeb Bush. This is too much panic for just a supporter, this is how a candidate would lose it. Calm down, John Ellis, it will be okay.

Read my response above. I'll support the nominee of the Republican Party UNLESS it is Donald Trump. Even the people who I dislike, if they are nominated, I will respect the will of my fellow Republicans and support our candidate because he/she will be better than the Democrats.

Should Bush lose the nomination, I will be greatly disappointed. But to be quite honest, it's about equally important to me that Trump loses as Bush wins because. Trump is against everything I stand for - he's about hatred, bigotry, and socialism. I'm about hope, inclusion, and capitalism.

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Seeing dudabides rage about poor Jebby  and the Don makes me smile inside.

Here is the fundamental problem. I support Jeb Bush, yes, but I have my own views as well. I am very concerned about the direction this nation is headed in. I am a strong proponent of free markets and capitalism. What we have today is quasi-capitalism, we need to return to capitalism. Donald Trump would move us further away from that goal.

To be perfectly honest, "libertarianrepublican" your'e a fraud. Anyone who supports individual liberty and libertarian principles can't support or defend someone who is the king of corporate welfare and who has wanted to take away property rights.

This is more detailed than anything Romney put out in the 6 years he ran for President.

Mitt Romney never lied about illegal immigration to my knowledge though.

Look, we need a temporary worker program, we need a pathway to legal status, we need employment verification, and we should get rid of sanctuary cities. The only person who should be deported is Melania Trump because she contributes nothing to American society. Seriously though, this has been used as an issue for people like Ted Cruz who need to rely on winning the votes of the scared and ignorant, and it's been used by the Democrats to try and win over immigrants by giving them gifts.

I'm begging to think that you are actually Jeb Bush. This is too much panic for just a supporter, this is how a candidate would lose it. Calm down, John Ellis, it will be okay.

Read my response above. I'll support the nominee of the Republican Party UNLESS it is Donald Trump. Even the people who I dislike, if they are nominated, I will respect the will of my fellow Republicans and support our candidate because he/she will be better than the Democrats.

Should Bush lose the nomination, I will be greatly disappointed. But to be quite honest, it's about equally important to me that Trump loses as Bush wins because. Trump is against everything I stand for - he's about hatred, bigotry, and socialism. I'm about hope, inclusion, and capitalism.

Nice that you think I'm a fraud. Who said I was defending him, I just hate Bush even more lol.

From a libertarian perspective, I get that Rand Paul is the best candidate, but Trump should be considered the worst. First of all, if you disagree with Jeb Bush on foreign policy, you then have to disagree with Trump because while Trump did oppose the mission in Iraq, he also said he was "the most militaristic person." Trump also has a history of supporting gun control, opposing private property rights, supporting socialized medicine, these are all radically left wing, anti-libertarian positions that no other GOP candidate (except for George Pataki and John Kasich on gun control) has taken. On top of that, this guy is a crony capitalist - one of the things I love about libertarians is they hate crony capitalism and expose it for what it is.

I mean, look what Michael Tanner at NRO wrote just a few days ago:

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Now, to be fair, the same article does discuss my candidate spending $456 million in taxpayer funds to bring life sciences and biotech to Florida. But even in his situation, while I disagree with Governor Bush's use of a state fund, he didn't cater to one individual and pick winners and losers like Chris Christie (who has spent $2.1 billion on corporate welfare in 2014 alone) and others, and he certainly didn't buy corporate welfare off the backs of taxpayers the way Mr. Trump did.

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I have my reasons for opposing Jeb Bush:

A.) He's a Bush, I do NOT want another Bush as President and I hope he doesn't become the nominee so it shatters the dreams of the Bush clan and prove that the GOP doesn't want them any more.

B.) He still can't make up his mind about whether Iraq was a justified war (which it wasn't).

C.) he keeps flip flopping on education and he has supported Common Core, the federal government has no business being involved in the education of our children and Jeb still can't say he is 100% for that. He's out of the mainstream with the GOP on education.

D.) He has refused to sign the Americans for Tax Reform pledge to not raise taxes, lest we have a repeat of what Bush 41 did.

E.) Lest I mention the whole Terri Schiavo case when he forcibly kept her alive against her families wishes because of "his personal beliefs" and continued to let her suffer in her condition.

A.) America was better off under George W. Bush than it has been under Barack Obama. George W. Bush defended this country after the worst attack on our soil.

Don't believe me? http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/07/60-terrorist-plots-since-911-continued-lessons-in-domestic-counterterrorism

B.) He did make up his mind. He said that knowing what we know now, he would not have invaded. But, he has also said that this President withdrew without leaving any residual forces behind against the advice of some in the military. Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has said the same thing.

C.) Common Core was not created by the federal government nor was it implemented by the federal government. Governor Bush has said he supports common core, but opposes having the federal government involved in educational standards directly or indirectly. Look, I oppose common core, but in the end it's a state issue, Governor Bush has been consistent here.

D.) Jeb Bush reduced taxes by $19 billion in Florida. He has said he wants to reform the tax code with lower rates and fewer loopholes. Frankly, Grover Norquist is full of hot air and no one except a few in the GOP establishment that you dislike actually take him seriously. The only pledge any presidential candidate should take is what they promise the American people, not some group.

E.) Terry Schiavo's parents wanted to keep her alive. Her selfish husband who couldn't keep it in his pants wanted her out of the picture so he could be with another woman without feeling guilty. Governor Bush exercised strong moral judgement.

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This is more detailed than anything Romney put out in the 6 years he ran for President.

Mitt Romney never lied about illegal immigration to my knowledge though.

See, it's rather telling that's the response you latch onto. You can't dispute that Romney had no policy proposals in his campaign or even bring up that Jeb does either.

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Fine suggestions. So why vote Republican to make that happen when Hillary Clinton and the Democrats could do it instead?

Donald Trump is the first Republican in over a decade to be about something other than "defeat the Democrats." He's far from a joke. He's the most real candidate the Republicans have right now.

Hillary Clinton has demonstrated she has no respect for the rule of law. She supports a pathway to citizenship, which isn't the worst thing in the world, but I highly doubt she'd support defunding sanctuary cities, she'd support the Dream Act, and she'd try to give amnesty where she can.

No, Donald Trump is a joke. The tea party is falling for his B.S. because they are scared and angry. But the majority of Republicans still support other serious candidates.

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Hillary Clinton has demonstrated she has no respect for the rule of law. She supports a pathway to citizenship, which isn't the worst thing in the world, but I highly doubt she'd support defunding sanctuary cities, she'd support the Dream Act, and she'd try to give amnesty where she can.

The rule of law doesn't really factor into what policy proposals are.

Defunding sanctuary cities would not matter at all if there's a pathway to citizenship. The DREAM Act is a pathway to citizenship. Again, I don't understand what Jeb is offering that the Democrats aren't on this issue.

The major difference is that Bush wants a pathway to legal status, the Democrats want to skip that step and go right to citizenship. Democrats had four years to get immigration reform passed. They had two years under George W. Bush, who was with them on this issue, and they controlled both the white house and congress for two years. Governor Bush has written a book on this topic, he understands the issue, and he would fight for reform where as the Democrats have failed to get reform passed. Also, I don't hear the Democrats discussing reforming the legal immigration system, Governor Bush wants to make it so we have fewer people coming here for family unity and more coming here to contribute to our economy.

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I think Trump should pay for the wall since he owes taxpayers billions from corporate subsidies for him they've supported and for his wasting time in bankruptcy court. I also happen to know that Trump is a criminal, but I'm not going to go any further on an online forum. Just know there's a lot of dirt on him that isn't coming out.

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Trump is here to stay. Soon, everybody will be jumping on the Donald bandwagon and he will be unstoppable.

The only people who support Donald Trump are old white males and a few displaced workers who are angry because immigrants moved into their neighborhoods and they believe globalization has led to the loss of manufacturing jobs. Trump's supporters don't read, they don't care to learn anything, they can't think for themselves.

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This is more detailed than anything Romney put out in the 6 years he ran for President.

Mitt Romney never lied about illegal immigration to my knowledge though.

See, it's rather telling that's the response you latch onto. You can't dispute that Romney had no policy proposals in his campaign or even bring up that Jeb does either.

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Fine suggestions. So why vote Republican to make that happen when Hillary Clinton and the Democrats could do it instead?

Donald Trump is the first Republican in over a decade to be about something other than "defeat the Democrats." He's far from a joke. He's the most real candidate the Republicans have right now.

Hillary Clinton has demonstrated she has no respect for the rule of law. She supports a pathway to citizenship, which isn't the worst thing in the world, but I highly doubt she'd support defunding sanctuary cities, she'd support the Dream Act, and she'd try to give amnesty where she can.

No, Donald Trump is a joke. The tea party is falling for his B.S. because they are scared and angry. But the majority of Republicans still support other serious candidates.

No, not all Trump Supporters are Tea Partiers his supporters are split between Conservatives and Moderates.

"Stupid people are ruining America" - Herman Cain

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Seeing dudabides rage about poor Jebby  and the Don makes me smile inside.

Here is the fundamental problem. I support Jeb Bush, yes, but I have my own views as well. I am very concerned about the direction this nation is headed in. I am a strong proponent of free markets and capitalism. What we have today is quasi-capitalism, we need to return to capitalism. Donald Trump would move us further away from that goal.

To be perfectly honest, "libertarianrepublican" your'e a fraud. Anyone who supports individual liberty and libertarian principles can't support or defend someone who is the king of corporate welfare and who has wanted to take away property rights.

This is more detailed than anything Romney put out in the 6 years he ran for President.

Mitt Romney never lied about illegal immigration to my knowledge though.

Look, we need a temporary worker program, we need a pathway to legal status, we need employment verification, and we should get rid of sanctuary cities. The only person who should be deported is Melania Trump because she contributes nothing to American society. Seriously though, this has been used as an issue for people like Ted Cruz who need to rely on winning the votes of the scared and ignorant, and it's been used by the Democrats to try and win over immigrants by giving them gifts.

I'm begging to think that you are actually Jeb Bush. This is too much panic for just a supporter, this is how a candidate would lose it. Calm down, John Ellis, it will be okay.

Read my response above. I'll support the nominee of the Republican Party UNLESS it is Donald Trump. Even the people who I dislike, if they are nominated, I will respect the will of my fellow Republicans and support our candidate because he/she will be better than the Democrats.

Should Bush lose the nomination, I will be greatly disappointed. But to be quite honest, it's about equally important to me that Trump loses as Bush wins because. Trump is against everything I stand for - he's about hatred, bigotry, and socialism. I'm about hope, inclusion, and capitalism.

Nice that you think I'm a fraud. Who said I was defending him, I just hate Bush even more lol.

From a libertarian perspective, I get that Rand Paul is the best candidate, but Trump should be considered the worst. First of all, if you disagree with Jeb Bush on foreign policy, you then have to disagree with Trump because while Trump did oppose the mission in Iraq, he also said he was "the most militaristic person." Trump also has a history of supporting gun control, opposing private property rights, supporting socialized medicine, these are all radically left wing, anti-libertarian positions that no other GOP candidate (except for George Pataki and John Kasich on gun control) has taken. On top of that, this guy is a crony capitalist - one of the things I love about libertarians is they hate crony capitalism and expose it for what it is.

I mean, look what Michael Tanner at NRO wrote just a few days ago:

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Now, to be fair, the same article does discuss my candidate spending $456 million in taxpayer funds to bring life sciences and biotech to Florida. But even in his situation, while I disagree with Governor Bush's use of a state fund, he didn't cater to one individual and pick winners and losers like Chris Christie (who has spent $2.1 billion on corporate welfare in 2014 alone) and others, and he certainly didn't buy corporate welfare off the backs of taxpayers the way Mr. Trump did.

http://www.tcpalm.com/franchise/shaping-our-future/vgti-facing-financial-issues_91933636

Jebbie picked losers in biotech; now, FL municipalities are on the hook.

I disagree with the $456 million Jeb Bush handed out in subsidies while he was Governor. But Donald Trump cost New Yorkers $163 million. The $456 million Bush handed out at least went to research and development, Trump has not contributed to research and development. Additionally, Bush's $456 million went to companies across Florida, New Yorkers spent $163 million plus on one man's company. Now, Trump didn't create the policies he took advantage of, but it's hard to tell folks that he'll end corporate welfare when he accepted it in the past AND after he's been in bankruptcy four times at the expense of taxpayers.