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Zinneke
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« on: February 17, 2015, 04:10:03 PM »

Surely Valls has to tender his resignation if he can't construct a majority?
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2015, 11:38:57 AM »

Surely Valls has to tender his resignation if he can't construct a majority?
Sadly, that's not how French politics work... But I'm sure you know that and were ironical.

I was only being half-ironic. In any sane democracy if you lose your majority you are essentially powerless. Valls has played his cards really well here but he could still face a spectacular fall from grace...

On another completely unrelated note, why did the UDF support Balladur in 1995, despite him being to the right of Chirac? Revenge for Chirac's antics in 1981? How much did this impact on the UDF essentially becoming a defunct political party?
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2015, 06:42:27 AM »

I think I asked this before but can somebody explain to me why UDF back in 1995 supported the way way more right-wing Balladur over the now moderate more europhile Chirac? Any articles on this?

Pretty much says everything you need to know about French politics when parties start backing candidates with different political philosophies based on ancient grudges.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2015, 01:39:04 PM »

LOL @ the idea that Chirac had any ideology or beliefs at any point in time.

Anyway, Balladur's political culture and governing style were a much better match for UDF than Chirac's.

Woah, I mean he's a flip flopper, but its still generally accepted that he went from incarnating the right-wing of the French Republican right (ok the conservative-dirigiste Right) to almost Blairite levels of Third Wayism. It seems more evolutionary opportunism given historical circumstances than having no ideas at all. Maybe that's what you meant... He wouldn't have won the 2002 2nd round with 82% had he stuck with his old views, more 60-40 with many of the Plural Left not endorsing him the way they did.

Considering Nicholas Sarkozy is a Balladuriste, I find it hard to believe someone like Bayrou could support their political clan, other than to please a bitter VGE. Bayrou eventually kept his ministerial post under Chirac too.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2015, 10:58:05 AM »


UDI really should just rejoin the Republicains. They will never back Hollande and even Bayrou will probably back a Juppé candidacy. Now that Borloo has gone it has no significant weight.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2016, 07:52:44 AM »

80% of voters don't want Flamby to run again, including a majority of Socialists. For some reason French presidents can never leave office voluntarily with a good approval rating...

The depressing thing is that people seem to want that piece of sh*t Valls to run instead.

Valls would win vs Sarkozy in a run-off.
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2016, 04:05:27 AM »
« Edited: September 23, 2016, 04:16:45 AM by JosepBroz »

He put forward a pro-Arab foreign policy. I would not call him a pro-Muslim politician, just a sympathiser of neo-Nasserist secular Arab nationalisn like Chirac was, and he opposed the Iraq war in 1991 and most US-led foreign intervention in the ME. Chirac was actually quite popular with the Muslim minority in France, so if you put 2 and 2 together, Chevenement is potentially seen as a good candidate. The vocal French Muslims put foreign policy higher on the agenda than the rest of France, you see.

He's also an ex-Home Secretary with cross-party respect.
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