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« Reply #825 on: September 14, 2008, 11:27:57 AM »

McCain getting a majority of the vote?

Yay!

If he has over 50 a week from now, that would mean something.

I cannot tell if we are expereincing the remainder of a bounce or if this is the new race.

Well, he has been hovering near or at the 49% mark, which practically means a majority.
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« Reply #826 on: September 14, 2008, 11:30:47 AM »

McCain getting a majority of the vote?

Yay!

If he has over 50 a week from now, that would mean something.

I cannot tell if we are expereincing the remainder of a bounce or if this is the new race.

Well, he has been hovering near or at the 49% mark, which practically means a majority.

If you remove the non-Dem,-Non Rep voting population. Tongue

Don't get me wrong, I do find it to be good news, but I'm still skeptical.
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« Reply #827 on: September 14, 2008, 11:36:01 AM »

It still could be a very pro McCain sample in the mix, but it certainly doesn't look like it.
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« Reply #828 on: September 14, 2008, 11:55:51 AM »

Yeah, Obama went up, too.
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« Reply #829 on: September 14, 2008, 04:22:03 PM »

McCain getting a majority of the vote?

Yay!

Yes but Obama went up as well. According to 538 Mccain's bounce should subside slowly so next week around this time would be a good time to check back on these polls. If Mccain is still leading, then this lead is for real. I except the race to become a tie or Obama+1 by the debates. We will see.
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« Reply #830 on: September 14, 2008, 04:24:35 PM »

McCain getting a majority of the vote?

Yay!

Yes but Obama went up as well. According to 538 Mccain's bounce should subside slowly so next week around this time would be a good time to check back on these polls. If Mccain is still leading, then this lead is for real. I except the race to become a tie or Obama+1 by the debates. We will see.

If it was a bad sample, McCain should really not have gone up at all.
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« Reply #831 on: September 14, 2008, 04:25:09 PM »

Remember when most people were saying, "Oh, yeah, this lead will be gone by the weekend (yesterday and today)."...?

Now it's, "Well, if it is still around by next week then it is serious."

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« Reply #832 on: September 14, 2008, 04:27:59 PM »

Remember when most people were saying, "Oh, yeah, this lead will be gone by the weekend (yesterday and today)."...?

Now it's, "Well, if it is still around by next week then it is serious."



Well this is according to 538 and they wrote this article a while back. Again I am not sure if it will happen or if the race has basically stabilized. I tend to side with 538 only because nothing too earth shattering has occured after the RNC, so if mccain's bounce is still sticking around it shouldn't be surprising.
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« Reply #833 on: September 14, 2008, 04:30:58 PM »

Remember when most people were saying, "Oh, yeah, this lead will be gone by the weekend (yesterday and today)."...?

Now it's, "Well, if it is still around by next week then it is serious."



Well this is according to 538 and they wrote this article a while back. Again I am not sure if it will happen or if the race has basically stabilized. I tend to side with 538 only because nothing too earth shattering has occured after the RNC, so if mccain's bounce is still sticking around it shouldn't be surprising.

It could be a shift to McCain.  Look, I was (maybe the first) guy who said, "Maybe it's a bad sample."  If that really was the case, McCain should not have increase.
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« Reply #834 on: September 14, 2008, 04:40:47 PM »

Remember when most people were saying, "Oh, yeah, this lead will be gone by the weekend (yesterday and today)."...?

Now it's, "Well, if it is still around by next week then it is serious."



Well this is according to 538 and they wrote this article a while back. Again I am not sure if it will happen or if the race has basically stabilized. I tend to side with 538 only because nothing too earth shattering has occured after the RNC, so if mccain's bounce is still sticking around it shouldn't be surprising.

It could be a shift to McCain.  Look, I was (maybe the first) guy who said, "Maybe it's a bad sample."  If that really was the case, McCain should not have increase.

You mean the lead is real? Yeah that could definitely be the case but it could still be a residual bounce and it is possible we might see it for another week or two, considering what happens in the campaign. If nothing significant happens it might even extend to the debates. But I doubt that. If Mccain is still leading by the time of the debates he is probably leading for real.
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« Reply #835 on: September 14, 2008, 04:42:17 PM »

If Mccain is still leading by the time of the debates he is probably leading for real.

"Probably leading for real?"
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« Reply #836 on: September 14, 2008, 04:46:58 PM »

Why doesn't Obama's bounces last this long?
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« Reply #837 on: September 14, 2008, 04:49:58 PM »

If Mccain is still leading by the time of the debates he is probably leading for real.

"Probably leading for real?"

Mccain most probably still has a bounce. When and if it will melt away is the question. No point arguing here phil, we will find out soon enough.
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« Reply #838 on: September 14, 2008, 04:51:45 PM »

Remember when most people were saying, "Oh, yeah, this lead will be gone by the weekend (yesterday and today)."...?

Now it's, "Well, if it is still around by next week then it is serious."



Well this is according to 538 and they wrote this article a while back. Again I am not sure if it will happen or if the race has basically stabilized. I tend to side with 538 only because nothing too earth shattering has occured after the RNC, so if mccain's bounce is still sticking around it shouldn't be surprising.

It could be a shift to McCain.  Look, I was (maybe the first) guy who said, "Maybe it's a bad sample."  If that really was the case, McCain should not have increase.

You mean the lead is real? Yeah that could definitely be the case but it could still be a residual bounce and it is possible we might see it for another week or two, considering what happens in the campaign. If nothing significant happens it might even extend to the debates. But I doubt that. If Mccain is still leading by the time of the debates he is probably leading for real.

The bounce should have evaporated by now; even it it hadn't it shouldn't be coming back.  There may be a "real" lead.  I said 9/10 is when we should start looking and that we should know something around 9/15.  I'll hold off until the morrow, but that should be Obama's best day on Gallup.
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« Reply #839 on: September 14, 2008, 04:55:56 PM »


Palin pick took out all the air from Obama's speech. Then the RNC happened. If you remember Obama did have some very favorable samples right before the RNC when some of that initial Palin bounce subsided. The reason why I think Mccain is still having a bounce is mainly because he has not led by any more than this. He has been holding steady at about +2-3 and it is interesting that 538 predicted this. And considering nothing much has happened since the RNC, it makes sense why the bounce might still be occuring as republican leaning independents/irregular voters are still excited about the party. And the thing about a bounce is that it does subside. Mccain has not really lost much ground since the RNC has he. It should subside in a week or two. If Mccain is still leading by debate time then it probably is not a bounce and the numbers are for real.
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« Reply #840 on: September 14, 2008, 04:56:58 PM »

Remember when most people were saying, "Oh, yeah, this lead will be gone by the weekend (yesterday and today)."...?

Now it's, "Well, if it is still around by next week then it is serious."



Well this is according to 538 and they wrote this article a while back. Again I am not sure if it will happen or if the race has basically stabilized. I tend to side with 538 only because nothing too earth shattering has occured after the RNC, so if mccain's bounce is still sticking around it shouldn't be surprising.

It could be a shift to McCain.  Look, I was (maybe the first) guy who said, "Maybe it's a bad sample."  If that really was the case, McCain should not have increase.

You mean the lead is real? Yeah that could definitely be the case but it could still be a residual bounce and it is possible we might see it for another week or two, considering what happens in the campaign. If nothing significant happens it might even extend to the debates. But I doubt that. If Mccain is still leading by the time of the debates he is probably leading for real.

The bounce should have evaporated by now; even it it hadn't it shouldn't be coming back.  There may be a "real" lead.  I said 9/10 is when we should start looking and that we should know something around 9/15.  I'll hold off until the morrow, but that should be Obama's best day on Gallup.

You and 538 differ by about a week. Mccain's bounce has to subside right. Correct me if I am wrong but Mccain has not really led by more than 3 points has he. He is just staying steady on his bounce high.
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« Reply #841 on: September 14, 2008, 05:00:17 PM »

Remember when most people were saying, "Oh, yeah, this lead will be gone by the weekend (yesterday and today)."...?

Now it's, "Well, if it is still around by next week then it is serious."



Well this is according to 538 and they wrote this article a while back. Again I am not sure if it will happen or if the race has basically stabilized. I tend to side with 538 only because nothing too earth shattering has occured after the RNC, so if mccain's bounce is still sticking around it shouldn't be surprising.

It could be a shift to McCain.  Look, I was (maybe the first) guy who said, "Maybe it's a bad sample."  If that really was the case, McCain should not have increase.

You mean the lead is real? Yeah that could definitely be the case but it could still be a residual bounce and it is possible we might see it for another week or two, considering what happens in the campaign. If nothing significant happens it might even extend to the debates. But I doubt that. If Mccain is still leading by the time of the debates he is probably leading for real.

The bounce should have evaporated by now; even it it hadn't it shouldn't be coming back.  There may be a "real" lead.  I said 9/10 is when we should start looking and that we should know something around 9/15.  I'll hold off until the morrow, but that should be Obama's best day on Gallup.

You and 538 differ by about a week. Mccain's bounce has to subside right. Correct me if I am wrong but Mccain has not really led by more than 3 points has he. He is just staying steady on his bounce high.

The race seems to have stabilized after the bounce. 
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« Reply #842 on: September 14, 2008, 05:04:53 PM »
« Edited: September 14, 2008, 05:07:36 PM by sbane »

Remember when most people were saying, "Oh, yeah, this lead will be gone by the weekend (yesterday and today)."...?

Now it's, "Well, if it is still around by next week then it is serious."



Well this is according to 538 and they wrote this article a while back. Again I am not sure if it will happen or if the race has basically stabilized. I tend to side with 538 only because nothing too earth shattering has occured after the RNC, so if mccain's bounce is still sticking around it shouldn't be surprising.

It could be a shift to McCain.  Look, I was (maybe the first) guy who said, "Maybe it's a bad sample."  If that really was the case, McCain should not have increase.

You mean the lead is real? Yeah that could definitely be the case but it could still be a residual bounce and it is possible we might see it for another week or two, considering what happens in the campaign. If nothing significant happens it might even extend to the debates. But I doubt that. If Mccain is still leading by the time of the debates he is probably leading for real.

The bounce should have evaporated by now; even it it hadn't it shouldn't be coming back.  There may be a "real" lead.  I said 9/10 is when we should start looking and that we should know something around 9/15.  I'll hold off until the morrow, but that should be Obama's best day on Gallup.

You and 538 differ by about a week. Mccain's bounce has to subside right. Correct me if I am wrong but Mccain has not really led by more than 3 points has he. He is just staying steady on his bounce high.

The race seems to have stabilized after the bounce. 

When was Mccain's high point? He seems to be there right now. What's interesting to me is how 538 seems to have predicted this. According to them we should watch next weekend for whether the bounce subsides.
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« Reply #843 on: September 14, 2008, 05:13:32 PM »

I'm not so sure that it's so much of a bounce.  It may be simply a coming together of the Republican base.
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« Reply #844 on: September 14, 2008, 05:15:15 PM »

If Mccain is still leading by the time of the debates he is probably leading for real.

"Probably leading for real?"

Mccain most probably still has a bounce. When and if it will melt away is the question. No point arguing here phil, we will find out soon enough.

We're not even talking about him having a bounce now. You said it he's ahead by the time of the debates then it is "probably" a real lead. How is it not definitely a real lead if he's still up a week from now?
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« Reply #845 on: September 14, 2008, 05:21:28 PM »



When was Mccain's high point? He seems to be there right now. What's interesting to me is how 538 seems to have predicted this. According to them we should watch next weekend for whether the bounce subsides.

Probably about +7, in Gallup, but the Obama weekend bounce hit some of it.
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« Reply #846 on: September 14, 2008, 05:36:15 PM »

If Mccain is still leading by the time of the debates he is probably leading for real.

"Probably leading for real?"

Mccain most probably still has a bounce. When and if it will melt away is the question. No point arguing here phil, we will find out soon enough.

We're not even talking about him having a bounce now. You said it he's ahead by the time of the debates then it is "probably" a real lead. How is it not definitely a real lead if he's still up a week from now?

Yeah check back next weekend/the week after that. Those numbers should be solid right before the debate. Then the debate basically decides the election.
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« Reply #847 on: September 15, 2008, 02:26:47 AM »

If McCain has this type of lead at the beginning of October will the Libs still be saying "bounce"?
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« Reply #848 on: September 15, 2008, 08:34:10 AM »

McCain 49% (-1)
Obama 47% (nc)

Rasmussen agrees with Gallup again, and all is right with the world. (Except for the McCain lead.)
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« Reply #849 on: September 15, 2008, 08:37:45 AM »

We'd have to wait for Gallup's new numbers.
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