COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

[Grassroots]

https://mobile.twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1253142566708473856

This is the study that found no benefit in treatment but an increase in deaths among those given it.

They keep pushing this just because Trump said it. I thought of a possible treatment that turns out to actually help (blood plasma), but I'm not the President.

Not to mention Remdesivir and a bunch of other treatments that have shown promise. But no, keep doubling down on Hydrox.

OK,

Good news for the Europe and USA. All appear to be on the downward slope now to recovery. The interesting thing about this pandemic is the limited time period displayed in all countries including South Korea and China. 1 month up and 1-2 months down the curve in most instances with a slight variation in the length in some countries.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I have to disagree with you here. U.S cases are NOT going down, we added more cases today than yesterday and we added 30k+ new cases today....

I don't think you understand the difference between active cases and new cases.

Also, yes, case rates are going town. Slowly at first though.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

https://mobile.twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1253142566708473856

This is the study that found no benefit in treatment but an increase in deaths among those given it.

They keep pushing this just because Trump said it. I thought of a possible treatment that turns out to actually help (blood plasma), but I'm not the President.

Not to mention Remdesivir and a bunch of other treatments that have shown promise. But no, keep doubling down on Hydrox.

OK,

Good news for the Europe and USA. All appear to be on the downward slope now to recovery. The interesting thing about this pandemic is the limited time period displayed in all countries including South Korea and China. 1 month up and 1-2 months down the curve in most instances with a slight variation in the length in some countries.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I have to disagree with you here. U.S cases are NOT going down, we added more cases today than yesterday and we added 30k+ new cases today....

I don't think you understand the difference between active cases and new cases.

Also, yes, case rates are going town. Slowly at first though.

When I say added cases I meant new cases

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://mobile.twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1253142566708473856

This is the study that found no benefit in treatment but an increase in deaths among those given it.

They keep pushing this just because Trump said it. I thought of a possible treatment that turns out to actually help (blood plasma), but I'm not the President.

NIH Covid-19 treatment guidelines warn against drug combo pushed by Trump

The panel specifically recommends against using the combination of hydroxychloroquine plus the antibiotic azithromycin because of potential toxic side-effects, except as part of a clinical trial. It also recommends against a combination of the HIV drugs lopinavir and ritonavir and other HIV drugs that stop viruses from replicating.

He really is a snake-oil salesman.

[Person Man]

https://mobile.twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1253142566708473856

This is the study that found no benefit in treatment but an increase in deaths among those given it.

They keep pushing this just because Trump said it. I thought of a possible treatment that turns out to actually help (blood plasma), but I'm not the President.

Not to mention Remdesivir and a bunch of other treatments that have shown promise. But no, keep doubling down on Hydrox.

OK,

Good news for the Europe and USA. All appear to be on the downward slope now to recovery. The interesting thing about this pandemic is the limited time period displayed in all countries including South Korea and China. 1 month up and 1-2 months down the curve in most instances with a slight variation in the length in some countries.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I have to disagree with you here. U.S cases are NOT going down, we added more cases today than yesterday and we added 30k+ new cases today....

I don't think you understand the difference between active cases and new cases.

Also, yes, case rates are going town. Slowly at first though.

When I say added cases I meant new cases

Maybe we've past the peak but its definitely lingering to the point where no one can say we're out of the woods yet. If people are stupid enough, we might not have actually peaked yet.

[emailking]

Yeah there's no law that says we have to follow a bell curve. On average that's what you get, but individual curves can be messy.

[It’s so Joever]

https://mobile.twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1253142566708473856

This is the study that found no benefit in treatment but an increase in deaths among those given it.

They keep pushing this just because Trump said it. I thought of a possible treatment that turns out to actually help (blood plasma), but I'm not the President.

Not to mention Remdesivir and a bunch of other treatments that have shown promise. But no, keep doubling down on Hydrox.

OK,

Good news for the Europe and USA. All appear to be on the downward slope now to recovery. The interesting thing about this pandemic is the limited time period displayed in all countries including South Korea and China. 1 month up and 1-2 months down the curve in most instances with a slight variation in the length in some countries.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I have to disagree with you here. U.S cases are NOT going down, we added more cases today than yesterday and we added 30k+ new cases today....

I don't think you understand the difference between active cases and new cases.

Also, yes, case rates are going town. Slowly at first though.

When I say added cases I meant new cases

We are seeing a steady decline in case growth, but as soon as States lift restrictions too early, our numbers will shoot up again. Things are going well now, but I am pessimistic that our governors will make the right calls.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

I thought the reason for the new cases was expanded testing.

[riceowl]

https://mobile.twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1253142566708473856

This is the study that found no benefit in treatment but an increase in deaths among those given it.

They keep pushing this just because Trump said it. I thought of a possible treatment that turns out to actually help (blood plasma), but I'm not the President.

And I wrote a consent document for the latter today!

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Yeah there's no law that says we have to follow a bell curve. On average that's what you get, but individual curves can be messy.

It's pretty clearly going to have a longer tail than head. Just look at daily new cases in Italy.

[Hammy]

I thought the reason for the new cases was expanded testing.

New hospitalizations and new deaths are also increasing.

[Meclazine for Israel]

I have to disagree with you here. U.S cases are NOT going down, we added more cases today than yesterday and we added 30k+ new cases today....

Here is a new graph for tomorrow so you can see how the data is calculated. Let us say tomorrow, we get 23,000 'New Cases' in the USA.

The plots I am presenting are 'Active Cases', not New Cases. To calculate this figure, one needs an estimate of Recoveries which is consistent. But most countries have failed, for differing reasons, to report recoveries. The UK, not at all.

It's like a chemical reaction. One side of the equation must match the other side. Those coming into the diagnosis routine must either recover or succumb to the virus.

So that 'Recovered' figure is around 380,000 assuming that all of the cases on April 8 have either recovered or died. 2 weeks after a diagnosis after 5-14 days of early infection is long enough to expect an outcome. And it averages out anyway if you think your way through the logic.

But the USA has only reported 85,000 recoveries. So we need to add 295,000 to the calculation to arrive at 'Active Cases'. So the 'Active Cases' total comes down.

The best part of this type of analysis is that it can be used as a predictive guide into the future.



USA 23 April - Active Cases (Prediction)
Predicted peak of Active Cases: 482,646 – April 20
Recoveries added to curve – 295,000

This provides a much smoother curve suitable for interpretation.

[Landslide Lyndon]

He hires the best people.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1253075681908531200

[Torrain]

https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1252556817772744704

[DINGO Joe]

He hires the best people.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1253075681908531200

Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job

[Meclazine for Israel]

He hires the best people.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1253075681908531200

Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job

This is an unnecessary smear against the high standing US Labradoodle Breeding community, viewed around the global as the premier source of Labradoodles.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/special-report-former-labradoodle-breeder-tapped-to-lead-u.s.-pandemic-task-force-2020-04

"Before joining the Trump Administration in January 2018, Harrison’s official HHS biography says, he “ran a small business in Texas.” The biography does not disclose the name or nature of that business, but his personal financial disclosure forms show that from 2012 until 2018 he ran a company called Dallas Labradoodles.

The company sells Australian Labradoodles, a breed that is a cross between a Labrador Retriever and a Poodle. He sold it in April 2018, his financial disclosure form said. HHS emailed Reuters that the sales price was $225,000."

What? No Aussie Labradoodles in my neighbourhood.

[Omega21]

Scientists investigate possible positive effects of nicotine. It is being assumed that nicotine somehow (clinging onto the receptors the virus needs) has a positive shielding effect against the virus.  

https://m.oe24.at/coronavirus/Coronavirus-Wissenschafter-vermuten-positive-Wirkung-von-Nikotin/427320386

Obviously testing will be done with patches, not cigarettes.

The reason for the theory is that so far smokers have 80% lower infection rates than the General population.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

CNBC reporting this morning that the weekly unemployment report (due at 0830 EST this morning) will yield some 4.3 million new unemployment claims during the week ending April-18th. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/another-4point3-million-workers-expected-to-have-filed-unemployment-claims.html

[Person Man]

CNBC reporting this morning that the weekly unemployment report (due at 0830 EST this morning) will yield some 4.3 million new unemployment claims during the week ending April-18th. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/another-4point3-million-workers-expected-to-have-filed-unemployment-claims.html

This is more in line of what I was expecting when we elected someone to be president whose last job was firing people on national TV.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

https://mobile.twitter.com/USDOL/status/1253300148811300865

[Donald Trump’s Toupée]

26 million jobs lost in 1 month. I hope saving a few centenarians were worth it. Reopen the US economy.

[Landslide Lyndon]

26 million jobs lost in 1 month. I hope saving a few centenarians were worth it.

Silence sociopath.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://mobile.twitter.com/USDOL/status/1253300148811300865

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1237498359134466051

[GeorgiaModerate]

He hires the best people.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1253075681908531200

Well, they were looking for someone experienced with labs...

[forgotten manatee]

https://mobile.twitter.com/USDOL/status/1253300148811300865

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1237498359134466051

Standing by for the inevitable Washington Post story about how Trump tried to tamper with or delay the Department of Labor's monthly jobs report. Because we all know that is going to happen.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1253034005462646784